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the place roughing masters almost surely

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have a plan this clearly may be

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something near beyond the realm of man

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so accepted every map goes just a lot

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more you think you know the math you

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really do that's true dr. Zaius where

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would we be without because we know the

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where would we be

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the highest dive jack

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all right I our side shatters we've seen

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by now that to fully explore the things

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they don't want you to know can truly

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take a lifetime of independent study

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if you've ever dedicated a sizable

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amount of energy into examining the deep

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dark and twisted web that spreads across

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these threads in the near infinite

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Pandora's box of subjects like occult

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esoteric philosophy symbolism cosmology

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theosophy Gnosticism Freemasonry

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alternative history astrology secret

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doctrines hidden motivations and all the

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rest of it in this weird world one of

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the first things you learn is that you

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really don't know [\h__\h] so I think it's

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extra important to stay open-minded

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absorb multiple opinions and resist the

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temptation to jump to conclusions when

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you're attempting to get a handle on the

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complex subtext of all things well today

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we're going to try and do just that

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because we're going to make an effort to

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get into the heads of the elite to try

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to unravel the mystery religion of the

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Adept occultist that might reside high

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within the power pyramid examine how

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they might see the world how they might

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interpret their symbols and how they

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might view their role in the big

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dramatic theatrical production we call

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life and here to lead us out of

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ignorance and into illumination is

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Michael Joseph and independent

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researcher and elite belief system

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enthusiast who has put together 30 plus

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hours of excellent and expansive YouTube

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videos on these very subjects and I'm

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psyched to have him here Michael my man

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welcome to the higher side well thank

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you Greg I don't know about leading

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people out of ignorance I you know just

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trying to show different perspectives

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and where I'm coming from

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for sure for sure I like the dramatic

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flair of the images but so thank you and

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uh you know thanks for being here man I

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really am looking forward to this I'm

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ready to go deep and I think your videos

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are pretty great you try to remain

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objective

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and rather than guessing or assuming

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what something means you go back to

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primary texts and read lengthy passages

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and convey a lot of material from the

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first-hand sources that we hear

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reference so often but few actually go

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back and read the works of and I get it

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life is busy cubicles don't fill

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themselves but to get us started what

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you've done already is a huge

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undertaking it could be probably like a

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three-month course how did you develop

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an interest in these subjects and end up

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because you have yeah it's just kind of

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the transitions of life you know I guess

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what really started me looking at

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anything that would be deemed esoteric

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was really astrology and that's

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something that growing up I just always

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thought was complete horseshit but I

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always had the exoteric version of it

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you know the horoscope in the newspaper

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she had an aunt or a grand aunt who was

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an astrologer a professional astrologer

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in Vegas and I was just kind of like

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okay rolling my eyes at that so

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apparently she had told her just my

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birthday she didn't have my birth time

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or anything and so just from that my

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ex-girlfriend relayed to me what she

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said and I was just really creeped out

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by it I was just like what it was just

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so strangely accurate the things that

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you only internally know about yourself

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wait a second there was so much truth to

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what it was that I was like okay I have

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to look at this now this could be my

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mind just making this up but I was

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already so skeptical about it I had no

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reason to be biased you know what I mean

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mm-hmm so from there I just kind of

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started looking at it a little bit

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checking out my own birth chart and

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going to like a strophe more places like

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that and just getting basic knowledge of

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things and seeing how strangely related

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to me so from there fast forward so I

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guess the waking up right to the

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conspiracy world I really didn't know

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that any of this stuff until the Boston

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bombing happened Wow

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yeah and the thing was it's strange is

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like I already had so many skeptical

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mindsets about history and the

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government stuff like that but I was

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working to be a musician so I really

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just focused a hundred percent of my

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time on trying to get better guitar and

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things like that so you know my head was

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down moving in that direction basically

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I had a band at that time and I was

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renting a practice space and the guy who

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ran the space when the Boston bombing

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up and she was listening to the radio

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and I just walk in there I didn't really

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know what to say because I was never

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really affected by these so-called big

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traumatic events as much and so I was

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just like bad day hi and I could tell he

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wanted to say something and then from

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that led into this to our discussion of

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him laying out the New World Order to

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being my drummer and I was not expecting

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that but I was really intrigued by it

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where I think my drummer was freaked out

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and to me it was like wow that's

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something you don't hear every day so I

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was just kind of you know interested in

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hearing this different perspective and

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then later on on Facebook which I'm not

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really on anymore but one of my old

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friends I used to work with in a

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restaurant posted something about the

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Hegelian dialect and like whom what's

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that so I googled that and that led me

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to mark Patheos what on earth is

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happening and I ended up watching all of

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that immediately and I was like holy

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[\h__\h] this exists this explains so many

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things that I had thought about the

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world so I was just really ignorant to

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the conspiracy world but if I had known

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about it beforehand I probably would

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have been much more receptive to it if

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you see what I'm saying mm-hmm and so

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from there a lot of things happen to me

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that was just after 2012 so all the

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programs like red ice radio that I found

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and listened to was you know talking

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about that so I kind of got into that

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and then later on some things happened

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in my life and you know went through a

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really really difficult time and I

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started looking heavily at the Orthodox

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Christian side because the guy who ran

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my practice space he was more in line

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with that version of the New World Order

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so I started looking at Walter Bates

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total onslaught series so this is the

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the New World Order so I kind of go into

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that and then I start looking at more of

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the esoteric occult stuff because

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obviously the Orthodox Christians are

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saying that you know everybody's a

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Satanist you know anything that's

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astrology is evil blah blah blah and I'm

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like okay well let me look at this stuff

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and see what I really think about it and

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so I've been kind of back and forth and

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all these different pillars of the

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conspiracy world you know the New Age

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stuff the Christian stuff

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the Gnostic stuff and so along that

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journey I just kind of absorbed what

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makes sense to me about them and the

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parts that led me into the things that I

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now discard I noticed things happening

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in me that I didn't like and just

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internally and so okay maybe there's

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something wrong with this idea or this

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ideology because it's producing bad

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effects in me and how I treat other

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people so it's always been this internal

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external world and that's kind of where

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I'm at now where I started researching

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these things and I'm just like man there

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seem to be a lot of misconceptions about

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stuff and I just kind of felt an

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obligation that maybe I should try to

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put some of these things out there that

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might help people in a similar situation

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that I was where it's like okay people

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are telling me this is what this means

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but well what about that and you know

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like the whole thing about the elites

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worships Saturn the black cube well why

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do I read their literature and they seem

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to be completely anti the Demiurge or

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anti Saturn Satan so these need to be

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reconciled for me for my own purposes

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and you know to sum this up getting

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long-winded that's just where it's at

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now where I'm just presenting the things

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that I've looked at giving all the

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sources so people can make up their own

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mind about it and I'm hoping that maybe

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that helps some people if they haven't

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been aware of some of these things right

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on yeah man I definitely like to get a

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little that context when I'm talking to

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people who I just haven't heard a whole

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lot from especially them talking about

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themselves very much and it seems like

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you've digested a ton of dense material

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awe of that but you refer to your occult

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series as an exploration of the hidden

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religions of world organizations and

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that is right at the heart of what I

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find really interesting and I guess I

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would ask do you think it can be summed

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up into one particular school of thought

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multiple different worldviews yeah I

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think the fundamental principles behind

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all this stuff is that the exoteric

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religions the outer religions as they

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call them there are secrets with

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than those that you can derive the true

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primitive religion and that religion is

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basically of the cosmos right this is

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what the nature of the stars teaches us

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and so to sum it all up I guess I would

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choose from what I've read from live

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asking Pike and people like that they

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say that one of the greatest

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culminations of this was the ancient

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Greeks and the Alexandria gnosis and the

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neoplatonist and things like that that

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centered around and Pythagoras so they

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say that they get all that information

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from Eastern religion and Blavatsky

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seems to think that the eastern

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doctrines of non-dualism and teaching

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heliocentrism and that the material

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world is this illusion on the Material

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Plane that's like the primitive religion

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that all of this derives from and so all

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of these cycles of different myths and

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religions that come up you can still

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derive that primitive religion but you

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have to look for the hidden meaning and

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so that's kind of like hidden things in

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scriptures so that's what Gnosticism or

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you know kabbalah

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is about and that is the same as nature

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so looking at the methodologies of the

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nature we see the outer nature if you

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look to the inner secrets that will

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derive the above but if you worship the

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outer nature you know the exoteric

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paganism which would basically be okay

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we have our nature gods sometimes

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they're angry at us sometimes they like

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us and that's all we know of God that's

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what would be seen as profane paganism

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and so the esoteric paganism would be

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derived from astronomical concepts and

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things like that so that's really the

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fundamentals of all of this is

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understanding what's exoteric and

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esoteric from their viewpoint and I

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think that that is really the key to

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unlocking a lot of this in ways that

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make more sense and you know that's

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where I've been at where I take that

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fundamental principle and I just try to

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read okay what is Blavatsky say is

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esoteric what is Pike say that it's

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esoteric what do they say is exoteric

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and then any time they mention a figure

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in history and this is why in the

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Cirie's when it gets a Giordano Bruno

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and Hypatia

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it's very interesting how the people at

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Kosmos like deGrasse Tyson and Sagan

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they're giving you the mystery religion

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version of history and I just find that

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very strange whereas the scholarly world

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has a very different viewpoint so I like

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putting all these things side-by-side

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and I just kind of let the audience fill

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throughout what makes sense to them as

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to why those discrepancies are there

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yeah and that's fair and obviously this

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is so deep but to kind of elaborate on

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that point about Neil deGrasse Tyson and

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him teaching the mystery religion I

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think some people might be a little

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surprised by that perspective because I

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think the common perception is that he

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would be an atheist that he is one of

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these guys promoting material atheism

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but that might not be the case right

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yeah and that's the genius of it to me

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is because to me this is what I see

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happening with it is the occultist view

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people who are atheistic as kind of the

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most profane because they're at the

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bottom of the chain they're the devil

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card in Tarot and I like to use the two

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tarot cards of the devil and the lovers

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to convey a lot of these ideas

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everything that is exoteric is the devil

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card everything that is esoteric is the

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lovers card so basically the altruism of

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Prometheus is giving you know the divine

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intellect of the lovers card the gnosis

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to the profane man and that is the

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sacrifice that is indicated on the

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lucious trust website of the United

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Nations and littered throughout all

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esoteric philosophy and so that's kind

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of what Baphomet represents to me is

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your uniting profane man to deity and

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you know it's going to create this chaos

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but from that will become a more divine

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order and it's the cycle of doing that

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in the process of alchemy so that seems

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to be in my opinion what they're trying

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to do to the human race so with the

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atheist being so enamored and again I'm

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not making a comment on people who are

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atheists or anything like that

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I'm just saying strictly from their

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viewpoints yeah they are kind of being

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indoctrinated without knowing it

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because they are looking up to the

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heavens right they are looking up to the

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cosmos and if you read Copernicus and

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all these guys they're all saying the

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more you look up the lesser you will get

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away from the profanity of man's sinful

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nature in the lower realms and so I

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think they view that they are trying to

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initiate people into the mysteries and

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it's a slow process of indoctrination

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and it's very interesting because what

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do all of these people who are enamored

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with science and atheism do they're

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attacking all of the exotic religions so

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in some sense they are attacking the

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enemies of Freemasonry so they're kind

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of being used in this way and this is

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kind of interesting with Gnosticism

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because that's kind of the view of the

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Demiurge there was a purpose for him and

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his mode of consciousness but it's being

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used from a higher level to do that and

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so you can kind of see that concept

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playing out with all the people

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constantly fighting with each other and

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that's what I'm trying to say is you

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know everyone's fighting over a lot of

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things that maybe we're all getting our

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strings pulled from something else and

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we're attacking what seems to be the

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visible problem not the hidden problem

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you know right and I do think that's

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really interesting like I've had a lot

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of guests talk about the deity flip the

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idea that the Abrahamic religions are

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actually worshipping a negative entity

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which turns out to be like the Demiurge

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you know they're worshipping the lower

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god the material dualistic dualism is a

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big and I do think the atheism component

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is interesting because it's like when

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you source back the Big Bang Theory one

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of the tenants of atheism they kind of

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got a lot of people on that path it

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comes from a Vatican astronomer yeah so

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it's like if the Vatican is preaching

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that you should worship the Demiurge and

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then they're also coming up with the

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atheistic paradigm it's kind of like

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these two ideas of science and religion

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thing we think of them is so different

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they come from a similar source and

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they're both thought from the occult

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view to be lower worldviews lower ideas

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is that right well here's the

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interesting thing

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I think it's a video 6.0 and 6.1 I talk

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about the Big Bang and that theory

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everything that what's-his-name la

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maitre I think is talking about the

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primeval atom and the cosmic egg that is

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actually when you read Blavatsky and

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Pike and all those guys it's almost like

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he derived it from them so the Vatican

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is weird because to me they serve an

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exoteric function where it's like okay

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people will point their finger at them

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and say you know they're all about the

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literalism of the Bible right but to me

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this is where the Knights Templar story

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comes into play and I don't really want

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to get into that now because it's going

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to get sidetracked but basically I think

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there's an exoteric and esoteric

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component to the Vatican where I see a

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lot of Gnostic symbolism coming from

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them but that's the hidden part of it

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now I know that might freak out some

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people but I'm just saying that this is

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what I get from the literature when I

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apply it but the point being is that are

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they perverting that or there's

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different ways of looking at it so

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somebody's into Gnosticism not saying

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that you're following the wrong religion

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or something it's way more complex than

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that yeah and the Orthodox I completely

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sympathize with the people who say the

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Orthodox versions produced duality

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because I mean let's just face it

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there's a lot of stuff that comes from

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the orthodox camp that i just-i can't--

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resonate with at all but i do think that

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a lot of the points that they make are

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valid with certain things but the

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literalism and and you have to believe

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that Jesus is a literal person you know

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I just I can't I can't go like you know

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I can't go with that you know and so I

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completely sympathize but sometimes I

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wonder if maybe the exoteric has been

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created by the people running it to

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project something to become this straw

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man of what the Creator is to bring them

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into their side sometimes I think about

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that I don't know that's just an idea

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but it's very strange because if they're

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the ones controlling all this what can

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you trust right there's there's so many

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layers and neither of us are

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so we're dealing with games within games

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we're dealing with

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exoteric and esoteric symbols that have

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dual meetings meetings at different

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levels different degrees of initiation

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so yeah I mean that it's very complex

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and it's just good to try on the

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different hats and try to figure out you

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know how things work but to add even

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another layer here I mean when you're

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citing people like Pike and Manley P

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Hall and maybe even Crawley to some

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extent these people are thought to be

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bound to secrecy for their orders I mean

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can we trust their public facing work

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yeah and you know that's pretty much up

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for anybody to decide individually on

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their own but where I'm coming from is

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that to me what I'm reading from

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Lebowski and Pike as far as I know

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that's the best we can gain as an

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insight to the world simply because they

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got a statue of Albert Pike that's kind

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of important these are Confederate

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general and everybody hates the

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Confederacy nowadays but nobody's

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criticizing that statue how ironic and

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then the lucious trust Foundation which

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is associated with United Nations and

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their philanthropy they're following

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Blavatsky's teachings openly on their

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site but how many people know about that

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site so you know you could say they're

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perverting the teachings or not I don't

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really care but I'm just saying that

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that's the reason why I chose looking at

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those so much and when I read those

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passages and I look at the world it's

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just like holy [\h__\h] look how well this

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matches up so that's kind of where I'm

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coming from with that and then the

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secrecy part of it is that this is where

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I try to take it based on what we know

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from them what if we start using their

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system and maybe when we're presented a

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symbol try to come up with our own

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explanation from their mindset so don't

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rely on everything they say but use

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their general foundational principles

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and try to derive things so this is what

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I try to do a lot with the taro

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symbolism and baphu May and stuff like

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that I try to apply what I know about

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esoteric philosophy to something that

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makes more sense to me sometimes than

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what we've been told I'll give a perfect

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example you know the the myth rustling

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the bull

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you see that at the Vatican Museum and

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what I've read about that from Manley

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Palmer Hall doesn't really quite make a

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lot of sense to me in context with a lot

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of the other stuff but what does make

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sense to me is that it's the essence of

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the highest spiritual son slaying the

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base desires of the earthly nature of

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man so it's like the compass slaying the

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desires of the square and that's a

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process of alchemy and unifying them and

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the bowl represents Taurus and so Taurus

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and is negative sense is possessions

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finances sexual lust things of that

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nature and this relates to the Moses

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allegory of the golden calf in the

542
00:21:29,980 --> 00:21:28,850
esoteric world Moses condemning the

543
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:29,990
Israelites for worshiping the golden

544
00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:33,050
calf means that Israelites worship the

545
00:21:37,299 --> 00:21:34,820
Demiurge because they don't understand

546
00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:37,309
the symbols and they're worshipping a

547
00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:39,830
false god they're being idolatrous and

548
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,470
so Moses is an initiated one trying to

549
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:44,720
reveal the highest God but they're just

550
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:46,370
profaning it so that's an allegory for

551
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:49,010
that and then you know profaning these

552
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:50,720
things leads to excessive materialism

553
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:52,490
and all this stuff and so it's very

554
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:54,110
interesting is that Pope Francis used

555
00:21:57,730 --> 00:21:56,090
that allegory when he came over to the

556
00:22:01,330 --> 00:21:57,740
West and told us how we're all too

557
00:22:03,010 --> 00:22:01,340
greedy and he used the golden calf as an

558
00:22:05,410 --> 00:22:03,020
example of the story so he was actually

559
00:22:07,419 --> 00:22:05,420
using the esoteric context of that story

560
00:22:10,299 --> 00:22:07,429
so that's what I think is weird here's a

561
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:10,309
Vatican guy using the occult version of

562
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:13,610
that and you know it's just stuff like

563
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:15,110
that it just wears me out and Pope

564
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:16,400
Francis I don't want to get into it I

565
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,380
[\h__\h] can't stand that guy he makes my

566
00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:21,200
blood boil when I hear him talk it's so

567
00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:24,020
hypocritical and I just you know I I

568
00:22:29,650 --> 00:22:26,270
can't even begin to describe how much I

569
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,660
despise his role that you see right now

570
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:32,480
it's just such self-righteous hypocrisy

571
00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:36,170
in my opinion right on man so to

572
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:38,360
backtrack just a bit here we have this

573
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:40,730
idea that the Abrahamic religions are

574
00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:42,710
tricking the masses into worshipping

575
00:22:47,260 --> 00:22:45,230
this lower beam the Demiurge this

576
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,270
creator of the material trap thinking

577
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:49,280
it's the highest God I'm very into that

578
00:22:54,970 --> 00:22:51,650
idea then to take it further we have

579
00:22:57,070 --> 00:22:54,980
this Lucifer Prometheus serpent in the

580
00:22:58,810 --> 00:22:57,080
garden archetype who they

581
00:23:01,300 --> 00:22:58,820
have demonized but is actually trying to

582
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:01,310
help us to elevate us to enlighten us to

583
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,810
a higher understanding

584
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:04,640
despite the demiurges wishes that we

585
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:07,730
remain ignorant and boil now with that

586
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:10,400
said if we fold in the symbols of the

587
00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:12,650
elite like for example a prometheus

588
00:23:17,470 --> 00:23:15,230
statue at Rockefeller Center it seems

589
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:17,480
like quite often the elite are invoking

590
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:20,210
these light bringing humanity freeing

591
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:22,580
Prometheus Lucifer archetypes who

592
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:24,710
sacrifice themselves to give knowledge

593
00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:27,710
to humanity but why would they do that

594
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,420
do they see themselves as in light

595
00:23:33,340 --> 00:23:31,280
nerves is this some facade they hide

596
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,350
behind are we misjudging the characters

597
00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:36,080
because their methods and actions don't

598
00:23:40,990 --> 00:23:38,150
really seem to line up with the

599
00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:41,000
mythological archetypes they promote you

600
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:43,550
know oh I hear you man this is what I

601
00:23:50,020 --> 00:23:45,410
call the Sphinx of the mysteries right

602
00:23:52,150 --> 00:23:50,030
here they use that term a lot but why do

603
00:23:54,610 --> 00:23:52,160
they seem to feel like they are

604
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:54,620
righteous and doing us a favor in their

605
00:23:59,650 --> 00:23:57,170
literature but we see all this awful

606
00:24:01,810 --> 00:23:59,660
[\h__\h] happening and you know this is very

607
00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:01,820
complex but I'll try to give some

608
00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:04,340
perspective here from what I've seen in

609
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:07,880
the research when I read some of Curly's

610
00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:10,610
writings on alchemy he talks a lot about

611
00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:13,580
in the process of white magic part of

612
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:16,300
the alchemists goal or their joy is

613
00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:19,690
taking the most profane elements and

614
00:24:24,910 --> 00:24:23,060
turning them into Godhead and bringing

615
00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:24,920
them to the state of the quote black

616
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:28,190
dragon you know basically poisoning the

617
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,010
material and then the further in the

618
00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:33,440
material push it the greater the triumph

619
00:24:39,490 --> 00:24:36,740
rising out of that and you know if all

620
00:24:41,659 --> 00:24:39,500
of this cult stuff are allegories for

621
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:41,669
human consciousness

622
00:24:47,089 --> 00:24:44,129
then could that be applied to the

623
00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:47,099
profane masses that we're being poisoned

624
00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:51,419
deliberately to bring us to a moment of

625
00:24:56,419 --> 00:24:53,159
enlightenment and this is why I use the

626
00:24:59,899 --> 00:24:56,429
movie the game a lot and Fight Club as

627
00:25:01,039 --> 00:24:59,909
well in relation to this because if you

628
00:25:03,619 --> 00:25:01,049
think about the movie have you seen the

629
00:25:05,539 --> 00:25:03,629
movie the game no I just heard you talk

630
00:25:07,699 --> 00:25:05,549
about it in your videos well I

631
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:07,709
definitely suggest watching it so David

632
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:09,289
Fincher film he also directed Fight Club

633
00:25:17,209 --> 00:25:13,679
so the idea is that Michael Douglas is

634
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,219
this bigwig millionaire guy and he's

635
00:25:21,889 --> 00:25:19,200
kind of depressed and you know he's

636
00:25:23,959 --> 00:25:21,899
basically trapped in the material world

637
00:25:26,539 --> 00:25:23,969
and there's this whole initiation

638
00:25:28,539 --> 00:25:26,549
process that goes through it where he

639
00:25:32,259 --> 00:25:28,549
stops caring about material things

640
00:25:34,479 --> 00:25:32,269
through this game and he comes out

641
00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:34,489
enlightened and now he just wants to

642
00:25:38,569 --> 00:25:37,079
meet the wizard behind the curtain as he

643
00:25:41,779 --> 00:25:38,579
says he doesn't care about the money

644
00:25:44,419 --> 00:25:41,789
that he thinks he lost and so there's

645
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:44,429
this whole setup that makes him think

646
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:46,169
that all these people are attacking him

647
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:47,849
and there's all this awful stuff but

648
00:25:50,479 --> 00:25:49,049
it's just this way to foster

649
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,489
enlightenment and this has to do with

650
00:25:54,109 --> 00:25:52,320
alchemy and to me there's like these

651
00:25:56,899 --> 00:25:54,119
eggs Oh Tarek and esoteric versions of

652
00:25:59,989 --> 00:25:56,909
it but one of them for the exoteric

653
00:26:02,509 --> 00:25:59,999
seems to be that they seem to think that

654
00:26:05,899 --> 00:26:02,519
if you're in your greatest mode of

655
00:26:09,409 --> 00:26:05,909
darkness you will out of sheer emotion

656
00:26:11,539 --> 00:26:09,419
bite into spiritual gold based off of

657
00:26:13,369 --> 00:26:11,549
pure instinct and that is like this way

658
00:26:15,889 --> 00:26:13,379
to foster enlightenment and Fight Club

659
00:26:18,139 --> 00:26:15,899
where he's burning Edward Norton's hand

660
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:18,149
with the lie that's like dissolving the

661
00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:20,369
body like baffle made dissolving

662
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:22,259
coagulate so you're dissolving the

663
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:24,329
material this is symbolic yeah and he's

664
00:26:27,109 --> 00:26:25,529
like this is your greatest moment of

665
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:27,119
enlightened man and you just want to be

666
00:26:31,099 --> 00:26:29,700
off somewhere else and to me this is

667
00:26:32,419 --> 00:26:31,109
revealed through a lot of Hollywood

668
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:32,429
movies where a lot of people are

669
00:26:35,959 --> 00:26:34,049
descending into darkness and then

670
00:26:38,209 --> 00:26:35,969
there's these moments that are supposed

671
00:26:40,819 --> 00:26:38,219
to be alumina Tory and then they come

672
00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:40,829
out of that and I just wonder if that is

673
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:42,299
part of what they're doing because

674
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:43,769
there's all of this profane

675
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:45,450
materialistic stuff pumping out a

676
00:26:49,789 --> 00:26:47,369
Hollywood but then there's all these

677
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:49,799
esoteric things like through the matrix

678
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:52,140
and the game and stuff like that

679
00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:54,930
are kind of contradictory to that so

680
00:26:59,440 --> 00:26:57,390
it's just very weird that I just wonder

681
00:27:01,550 --> 00:26:59,450
if this is part of their plan and their

682
00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:01,560
knowledge of alchemy and what they're

683
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:04,280
doing and their goal is in their minds

684
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:07,380
Universal philanthropy and freeing us

685
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:10,260
from the confines of the world of the

686
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:11,850
Demiurge or at least what they project

687
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:14,340
it to be you know the government all the

688
00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:16,470
things the archons represent fear

689
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:18,060
anxiety whatever everything that's of

690
00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:20,940
Saturn in the negative sense and so you

691
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:24,300
know I can resonate with a lot of those

692
00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:26,370
things which is weird but the way it's

693
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:28,680
being implemented it's just like this is

694
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:32,130
[\h__\h] up you know yeah so it's kind of

695
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,210
like this is the way I look at it

696
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:36,720
sometimes you take a word right like

697
00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:39,720
freedom everybody listens to the word

698
00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:42,270
freedom is like yes freedom that's good

699
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:43,620
but everybody has a different definition

700
00:27:49,220 --> 00:27:46,650
of how that is implemented and so that's

701
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:49,230
how they get us with 911 oh we're going

702
00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:50,760
to go fight those terrorists for freedom

703
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:53,100
so everybody is so caught up on the

704
00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:55,350
macro they don't see that the details

705
00:27:59,420 --> 00:27:56,940
aren't really matching up to what

706
00:28:00,800 --> 00:27:59,430
freedom is but that's how you kind of

707
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:00,810
blind people and this is what I just

708
00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:03,810
wonder you know the ideas of these

709
00:28:08,660 --> 00:28:06,260
things they sound nice and lofty and

710
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,670
true but the way they're being

711
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:11,520
implemented that's where people really

712
00:28:17,060 --> 00:28:14,310
start to decide well is this just real

713
00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:17,070
or not is this good or not you know I I

714
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:19,230
think that that's kind of you can have

715
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:21,570
the mindset of being self-righteous or

716
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:24,690
you know altruistic but how is that

717
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:26,070
being implemented and just to give a

718
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:27,510
quick example think about like the

719
00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:29,730
social justice warrior they're fighting

720
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:31,950
for all the things that I agree with but

721
00:28:36,050 --> 00:28:34,530
the way they implement it you know I'm

722
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:36,060
being stereotypical here I'm not saying

723
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:36,990
they're all like this but there's a

724
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:38,610
certain faction of extremity that it's

725
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:40,500
just like you know they want everything

726
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:43,080
to be racist any moment a white person a

727
00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:44,580
black person interact with each other it

728
00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:46,680
must be racist and the white person must

729
00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:48,360
be enacting white privilege on them and

730
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:51,750
I'm just like you're racist you can't

731
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:53,730
stop thinking about race you're the one

732
00:28:57,620 --> 00:28:55,140
that's racist and you're projecting on

733
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:57,630
everybody else you know I've had I have

734
00:29:00,920 --> 00:28:58,770
had discussions with people like that

735
00:29:03,050 --> 00:29:00,930
where I was given hypothetical questions

736
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:03,060
like if you saw white police officer

737
00:29:06,770 --> 00:29:05,220
arguing with an african-american person

738
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:06,780
would you use your white privilege to go

739
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:08,460
over there and stop that oppression I'm

740
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:10,050
like well how do I know it's oppression

741
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:11,730
what if the african-american punched

742
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:12,930
someone in the face no reason and the

743
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:14,250
guy's arresting him and how

744
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,110
condescending to think that he would

745
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:18,240
need you to go over there and handle his

746
00:29:22,550 --> 00:29:20,520
situation and so but the point being is

747
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:22,560
that the person that's telling me this

748
00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:25,020
I'm like dude I have to see the

749
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:27,030
situation and objectively understand if

750
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,620
I feel like something Bad's happening

751
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:30,720
but in their mindset it had to be

752
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:32,700
oppression and that the righteous thing

753
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:34,110
for me to do was to go over there and

754
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:36,930
stop it and I'm just like that's not

755
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:39,330
righteous that's [\h__\h] up it's so so

756
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:41,610
I'm saying is the idea of what is

757
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:43,500
righteous is there but the way it's

758
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:45,210
being implemented is like I don't think

759
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:47,370
so man you know what I mean and I I was

760
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:49,320
basically called a person who's

761
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:52,110
close-minded and you know they the

762
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:53,490
course they they're telling me that

763
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:56,070
history proves all these and I'm just

764
00:30:00,200 --> 00:29:57,930
like dude you are being so hypocritical

765
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:00,210
right now I'm trying to tell you that

766
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,130
you're the one who can't see that and so

767
00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:04,140
it becomes this argument that you're

768
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:05,670
never going to break any ground so you

769
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:07,170
just have to step away from but at the

770
00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:09,510
same time that kind of shows how these

771
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:12,750
ideas and concepts of good sounding

772
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:16,050
things being implemented that's where it

773
00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:20,010
gets fuzzy or the details manifest it

774
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:22,590
does get a little strange and I mean to

775
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:25,050
use another example based on the elite

776
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:27,570
we have these campaigns that on the

777
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:29,630
surface look like international

778
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:31,950
philanthropy but then it seems to be a

779
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:34,980
Trojan horse for eugenics programs and

780
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,890
other manipulative things so yeah it is

781
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,840
tough to get a good read on it but I did

782
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:41,760
bring up to you the hidden hand saga

783
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:44,370
where a supposed representative of the

784
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:46,110
elite came to answer questions on a

785
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,450
forum a few years ago I thought this was

786
00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:51,120
super intriguing and ultimately this

787
00:30:54,860 --> 00:30:53,070
hidden hand person said that the elite

788
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:54,870
are in positions of power and control

789
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,110
and suppressing the masses as a type of

790
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:00,960
altruistic sacrifice to facilitate true

791
00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:03,450
will for the people a sort of maybe a

792
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:05,580
justification for their actions to which

793
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:07,110
the hidden hand said that certain

794
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,050
families agreed to fill the roles on a

795
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:12,480
cosmic level well before they manifested

796
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:15,600
here almost sounding like they agreed to

797
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:17,670
play the role of archons to some degree

798
00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:18,580
but

799
00:31:22,830 --> 00:31:20,380
it's weird does that jibe at all with

800
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:22,840
your understanding of things dude I am

801
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:24,610
so glad you mentioned that to me because

802
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:26,290
I went and read that last night and I

803
00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:28,810
was kind of blown away haha because I

804
00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:31,660
felt like I was reading verbatim a lot

805
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:33,190
of the stuff that I've been reading with

806
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:35,110
levansky and and some of the other

807
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:37,510
writers not in every instance but enough

808
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:39,550
of it were I was just like oh my god and

809
00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:41,350
whether or not that's legitimate or not

810
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:43,660
I view it kind of like Albert Pike's

811
00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:45,670
World War 3 letter I don't know if

812
00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:47,080
that's real or not but it is kind of

813
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:48,520
strange that that's exactly what's

814
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:51,700
happening you know and so that kind of

815
00:31:57,450 --> 00:31:53,950
blew me away I read through a lot of

816
00:32:01,860 --> 00:31:57,460
that you know that to me makes a lot of

817
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:01,870
sense as to their viewpoints now that

818
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:05,170
begs the question are they right it's

819
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:06,670
all right and I'm one of those people

820
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:09,910
where I don't think so I think they're

821
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:11,650
on an ego trip that's my personal

822
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:12,910
opinion if somebody disagrees with that

823
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:15,160
that's totally fine I can understand

824
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:17,410
that but that's that's something that

825
00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:20,650
you've mentioned like it can seem in my

826
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:22,870
work that I'm an elite apologist when

827
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,270
I'm absolutely not but I'm trying to be

828
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:28,240
objective when something might not be as

829
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:30,370
nefarious as people make it out to be

830
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:32,110
and that's why I like you know Aleister

831
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:34,090
Crowley perfect example looking at the

832
00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:36,250
Christian side of it they all want to

833
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:38,020
think that she ate babies or something

834
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:40,540
you know and I'm like okay let me read

835
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,570
his writing all of that child sacrifice

836
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:45,760
stuff was just symbolic you know he's

837
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:49,020
very cryptic and kind of sarcastic and

838
00:32:53,790 --> 00:32:51,490
you know likes being clever and probably

839
00:32:55,530 --> 00:32:53,800
likes [\h__\h] with people's head so I

840
00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:55,540
would think that for the mindset of

841
00:32:58,050 --> 00:32:57,100
Crowley if he viewed Christians as

842
00:32:59,790 --> 00:32:58,060
thinking he actually literally

843
00:33:01,200 --> 00:32:59,800
sacrificed babies he would think that he

844
00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:01,210
had done his job because that's amusing

845
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:03,520
to him he's like that's so far from the

846
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,170
truth that it's just hilarious that

847
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:07,120
these people would think that I feel

848
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:09,550
like they find these things amusing that

849
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:11,830
people jump to a lot of these insane

850
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:13,710
conclusions about certain things but

851
00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:17,290
again this inevitably leads to the dark

852
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:19,270
occult stuff and the pedophilia things

853
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:22,350
and what that really could mean and

854
00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:24,370
that's something I hopefully want to get

855
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:26,740
into right here but I tend to be in the

856
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:29,050
middle with that somewhere where I think

857
00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:30,250
that

858
00:33:36,019 --> 00:33:33,220
there's you know legitimacy to those

859
00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:36,029
things and also may be an element of

860
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:39,220
fabrication as well it just depends and

861
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:40,240
I think there's a lotta different ways

862
00:33:43,259 --> 00:33:41,830
to view it but I sort of land in the

863
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:43,269
middle of it but I don't know for sure

864
00:33:47,129 --> 00:33:44,769
so I'm not going to tell you that that

865
00:33:48,749 --> 00:33:47,139
stuff is real or it's not I just think

866
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:48,759
it's a lot more complex and a lot of

867
00:33:55,619 --> 00:33:52,289
people make it out to be fair points so

868
00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:55,629
sometimes I have guests who talk about

869
00:33:59,730 --> 00:33:57,190
the founding of America from the

870
00:34:01,379 --> 00:33:59,740
perspective of these adept occultists

871
00:34:04,259 --> 00:34:01,389
that they were actually like trying to

872
00:34:07,259 --> 00:34:04,269
magic their way into a new era with this

873
00:34:09,389 --> 00:34:07,269
new Atlantis new world concept of course

874
00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:09,399
Freemasons were a heavy influence on

875
00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:11,740
America's Founding and in that sliver of

876
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:14,679
time I can see it being an attempt at a

877
00:34:19,619 --> 00:34:17,649
noble act but outside of that example

878
00:34:22,829 --> 00:34:19,629
I'm not sure I see a moral alignment

879
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:22,839
between some of their I guess religion

880
00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:24,280
and their actions it's hard to know

881
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:26,500
because again we have groups within

882
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:29,649
groups games within games but what do

883
00:34:34,109 --> 00:34:32,079
you think of that era in the attempt to

884
00:34:35,609 --> 00:34:34,119
start a new atlantis new world concept

885
00:34:38,819 --> 00:34:35,619
do you think that was them trying to

886
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:38,829
create a haven for enlightenment a new

887
00:34:46,109 --> 00:34:41,940
Atlantis to a degree yeah I think that's

888
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:46,119
the mindset of them just based on what I

889
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:48,550
read and then my Elaine Pagels video I

890
00:34:55,409 --> 00:34:51,760
make the connection that she's talking

891
00:34:58,140 --> 00:34:55,419
about the Demiurge and how that

892
00:34:59,819 --> 00:34:58,150
represents false authority and monarchy

893
00:35:03,839 --> 00:34:59,829
and things like that the false crown

894
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:03,849
right and so the initial gates declare

895
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:06,130
their independence from that force and

896
00:35:11,809 --> 00:35:09,609
that is the celebration of freedom so

897
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:11,819
what I think is very strange is that

898
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:14,770
that to me is the esoteric version of

899
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:16,780
the Declaration of Independence and what

900
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:19,560
we celebrate in the 4th of July but

901
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:23,170
ironically it's all about their religion

902
00:35:27,569 --> 00:35:25,660
so you're not really free from religion

903
00:35:30,839 --> 00:35:27,579
but they view their religion is being

904
00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:30,849
freedom and so I just think from that

905
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:32,380
perspective that's what I would gather

906
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:33,790
now whether or not that was what

907
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:35,770
happened I don't know but I'm just

908
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,280
applying the literature to the symbology

909
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:41,680
that we see and I think the holiday

910
00:35:45,269 --> 00:35:43,630
stuff is very strange too

911
00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:45,279
I think there's an esoteric exoteric

912
00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:47,589
component to a lot of the holidays yeah

913
00:35:53,069 --> 00:35:50,259
and you know it's just very interesting

914
00:35:55,049 --> 00:35:53,079
how that idea I like a perfect example

915
00:35:58,559 --> 00:35:55,059
the Freedom Tower right

916
00:36:03,059 --> 00:35:58,569
we had the twin pillars of polarity that

917
00:36:05,549 --> 00:36:03,069
were separated and then in 9/11 they

918
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:05,559
were disappeared and they were merged

919
00:36:10,319 --> 00:36:09,880
into one and freedom right freedom from

920
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:10,329
what

921
00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:13,210
if the duality of the pillars represents

922
00:36:17,999 --> 00:36:15,309
the Demiurge and they are merged into

923
00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:18,009
one pillar representing unity which is

924
00:36:23,279 --> 00:36:20,589
basically their whole philosophy the

925
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:23,289
highest essence of deity is the perfect

926
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:25,690
union of the opposites is that an

927
00:36:30,749 --> 00:36:29,529
allegory for them and their unity of

928
00:36:33,299 --> 00:36:30,759
consciousness or at least what they

929
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:33,309
think their unity is and then our

930
00:36:37,049 --> 00:36:35,140
version is oh we're free from them

931
00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:37,059
terrorists who attacked us you know what

932
00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:39,460
I mean it's just sort of like using the

933
00:36:44,009 --> 00:36:42,700
literature that makes sense to me as how

934
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:44,019
they would view it now whether or not

935
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,490
that's actually how they do it I don't

936
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:47,920
know but you know you can make the

937
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:50,319
applications all over the place once you

938
00:36:56,999 --> 00:36:53,140
understand their system right and I do

939
00:36:58,859 --> 00:36:57,009
actually love your 9/11 ritual analysis

940
00:37:01,289 --> 00:36:58,869
it's it's pretty interesting and just

941
00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:01,299
like you pointed out I can understand

942
00:37:07,499 --> 00:37:04,390
this idea of collapsing the dualistic

943
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:07,509
structure and building a single Freedom

944
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:09,369
Tower I get the concept replacing

945
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:13,930
profane dualism Saturnian Demiurge extol

946
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,230
oneness but 9/11 also seems to have been

947
00:37:22,769 --> 00:37:19,839
the catalyst for a lot of Saturnian

948
00:37:25,859 --> 00:37:22,779
iconic control schemes like the Patriot

949
00:37:27,269 --> 00:37:25,869
Act increased surveillance the TSA so I

950
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,279
mean how should we think about that

951
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:30,640
piece well you could view that a lot of

952
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:34,630
different ways one maybe they're just so

953
00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:37,839
delusional and they blame all of those

954
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:40,509
things on us you know you've probably

955
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:42,130
heard a lot of researchers talk about

956
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:45,640
the law of karma and how maybe they

957
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:47,890
manipulate things to get us to be the

958
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:49,750
ones that make the decision to go to war

959
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:52,089
and somehow they're free of that yeah I

960
00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:53,710
think there's something to that now

961
00:37:57,420 --> 00:37:56,950
whether or not that is reality or just

962
00:37:59,220 --> 00:37:57,430
what they

963
00:38:01,170 --> 00:37:59,230
think that they're free of I don't know

964
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:01,180
but it seems very interesting because

965
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:04,540
they constantly blame war and famine and

966
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:06,760
all these things on us the propane

967
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:09,339
people if you read the literature they

968
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:13,599
just [\h__\h] on us constantly and so this

969
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:15,220
is where I think is interesting about if

970
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:17,260
you read the New Testament and these are

971
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:18,609
some things I resonate with from the

972
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:21,250
more Orthodox I where I view reading

973
00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:24,790
stuff from Jesus as just literature like

974
00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:26,200
I'm reading crime and punishment or

975
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:27,069
something then that's the most

976
00:38:29,730 --> 00:38:28,480
blasphemous thing you can say in

977
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:29,740
Orthodox religion but I don't care

978
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:32,740
that's just how I view it so I just like

979
00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:34,210
to separate what makes sense to me or

980
00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:36,040
not and the lows to the Pharisees I

981
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:38,260
think are very interesting because they

982
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:40,150
say that they lay heavy burdens upon

983
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:42,550
men's shoulders but they don't lift the

984
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:44,260
finger themselves so basically they just

985
00:38:48,329 --> 00:38:46,180
project everything onto the people and

986
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:48,339
act like they're self righteous so I

987
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:50,290
wonder if maybe some of that's what's

988
00:38:56,549 --> 00:38:52,930
going on I'm not sure but what is

989
00:39:00,299 --> 00:38:56,559
interesting is that you know 9/11 what

990
00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:00,309
happened after they told us that oh we

991
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:02,349
need to go out and buy stuff that will

992
00:39:08,010 --> 00:39:04,569
show those terrorists materialism

993
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:08,020
Saturnian said yeah exactly so here's

994
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:10,270
the interesting thing if you apply the

995
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:14,260
alchemical ideology of pushing the

996
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:16,150
profane people further in the darkness

997
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:19,510
and that is beneficial to the elites to

998
00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:22,270
use an alchemy it's almost like they are

999
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:23,829
like the archons where they feed off the

1000
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:25,420
negative energy but I think the way that

1001
00:39:29,789 --> 00:39:26,890
they think that they're using it is a

1002
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:29,799
lot different than most people do so you

1003
00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:32,170
know they let all of the exoteric people

1004
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:33,940
in that that was one of the things when

1005
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:35,290
9/11 happened I couldn't believe my eyes

1006
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:38,440
they're selling like freedom pins on QVC

1007
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,849
and people are writing songs and they

1008
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:41,680
can less money I'm just like oh my god

1009
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:44,170
what the [\h__\h] we're going to war the

1010
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:46,510
next day it was very strange to me but

1011
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:48,130
at that time my life you know I'm like

1012
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:49,630
okay everything's [\h__\h] whatever I'll

1013
00:39:53,609 --> 00:39:51,670
move on with my life but all those

1014
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:53,619
things I just I was just completely

1015
00:40:00,510 --> 00:39:56,230
blown away by that what's very

1016
00:40:02,839 --> 00:40:00,520
interesting is that if that is a ritual

1017
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,849
in some fucked-up way to foster

1018
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:05,040
enlightenment

1019
00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:06,780
kind of weird because I started

1020
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:08,760
realizing all this material stuff that's

1021
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:11,310
happening is really awful so it actually

1022
00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:14,790
worked on me and I hate saying that you

1023
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:17,070
know what I mean 9/11 woke me up right

1024
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:19,470
it makes you realize that there was this

1025
00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:22,290
awful materialistic element so I agree

1026
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:23,700
with that I mean I'm not really a very

1027
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:25,500
materialistic person but I'm not one of

1028
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:27,480
these people who's like sell all your

1029
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:28,950
possession and go live in the woods I

1030
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,230
you know I try to be balanced about it

1031
00:40:34,850 --> 00:40:32,880
but it's really strange and what

1032
00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:34,860
happened on 9/11 I you've had a guest on

1033
00:40:38,090 --> 00:40:36,420
talking about the astrology of it and

1034
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:38,100
I'm going to do a series on 9/11 later

1035
00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:41,130
on when I have time but basically Saturn

1036
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:43,590
was in Gemini so Saturn the Demiurge in

1037
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:45,450
between the two pillars of duality and

1038
00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:47,550
it was having a return so when they

1039
00:40:51,890 --> 00:40:49,590
opened the World Trade Center it was

1040
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:51,900
almost in the exact same spot I think it

1041
00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:54,660
was like 14 or 15 degrees Gemini and the

1042
00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:57,840
opposition is Pluto now inteiro pluto is

1043
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:00,420
like the Holy Spirit it's the sheen

1044
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:03,450
flame the divine fire you know it's so

1045
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:05,010
divine that it breaks down all the

1046
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:07,980
material structures because that's the

1047
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:10,560
essence of the all-consuming deity so

1048
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,970
that's what Pluto represents now people

1049
00:41:15,290 --> 00:41:13,920
think Oh Pluto Hades underworld I think

1050
00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:15,300
that's exoteric in terms of the

1051
00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:17,340
astrology of it I think the outer

1052
00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:19,350
planets Uranus Neptune and Pluto are

1053
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,180
seen as more divine and non-dualistic

1054
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:23,760
and then once you get into Saturn and

1055
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:25,260
into the inner planets

1056
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:27,120
that's where duality happens based on

1057
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,060
what I've learnt but Pluto is the

1058
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:32,640
opposition and so that's like the divine

1059
00:41:40,070 --> 00:41:37,380
fire that breaks down material form and

1060
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:40,080
you know the divine jet fuel fire that

1061
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:41,670
broke down all the material form of the

1062
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,530
World Trade Center you know I don't know

1063
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:44,880
if sometimes I wonder if that's just an

1064
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:47,520
allegory for an astrological alignment

1065
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:51,180
but either way that's very strange and

1066
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:54,030
then another part of my video it's six

1067
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,800
point one video six point one on the

1068
00:42:00,350 --> 00:41:58,380
celestial sphere they had the sphere in

1069
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,360
between the two pillars which is

1070
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:02,640
basically what Atlas holds up like at

1071
00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:04,740
Rockefeller Center right and so that was

1072
00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:07,350
cracked or broken and that's part of the

1073
00:42:10,610 --> 00:42:09,000
whole Big Bang Theory and breaking the

1074
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:10,620
Orphic egg and that's spiritual

1075
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:13,140
achievement or the phoenix rising out of

1076
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:13,920
the ashes

1077
00:42:18,590 --> 00:42:16,560
you know the initiate learning of the

1078
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:18,600
highest God and

1079
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:19,800
you know everything that's represented

1080
00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:21,690
the lovers card breaking that celestial

1081
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:24,900
sphere is cracking that so how strange

1082
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:27,240
that that cracked during that event and

1083
00:42:30,110 --> 00:42:28,650
then they moved it to Battery Park and

1084
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:30,120
lit an eternal flame just like they did

1085
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,420
for JFK the eternal flame sheen flame

1086
00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:35,520
spark of Prometheus I don't know but

1087
00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:36,420
it's weird how

1088
00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:38,760
Rockefellers have Prometheus and Atlas

1089
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,920
and then they are the ones that you know

1090
00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:42,720
basically built the Twin Towers and they

1091
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:44,340
had the sphere in between them that

1092
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:44,910
cracked

1093
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:48,330
it's just weird [\h__\h] man yeah they're

1094
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:52,200
invoking some weird philosophy but it is

1095
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:55,410
such an interesting and albeit thorny

1096
00:43:00,350 --> 00:42:57,960
perspective but you are right that I

1097
00:43:03,950 --> 00:43:00,360
guess I could say to a degree that I

1098
00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:03,960
lived in ignorance before 9/11 and that

1099
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,140
really was a pivotal Awakening moment

1100
00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:10,560
and you can also tie in the very fringe

1101
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:14,040
and far-out idea that nobody really dies

1102
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:16,110
of these false flags that nobody really

1103
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:17,880
died at 9/11 that those planes were

1104
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:19,830
empty and there's even some people who

1105
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:23,940
say that the building has only a couple

1106
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:25,740
of floors that large parts of those

1107
00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:28,170
buildings were empty and I mean this is

1108
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:30,180
just a really far-out idea that some

1109
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:33,270
people say but if that turned out to be

1110
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:33,690
true

1111
00:43:39,890 --> 00:43:37,020
you could then say oh well this trauma

1112
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:39,900
is kind of illusionary to wake people up

1113
00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:41,310
it's very weird but I

1114
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:42,900
I wanted to point out also in your

1115
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:45,390
videos I find it really interesting your

1116
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:47,850
analysis of that black cube symbol of

1117
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:50,610
course it's a Saturnian symbol a lot of

1118
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:52,500
people look at those cubes and say oh

1119
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:55,200
see they're Saturn worshippers but the

1120
00:43:58,310 --> 00:43:56,490
way you talk about it is they're not

1121
00:44:00,170 --> 00:43:58,320
worshiping it when they put it at the

1122
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:00,180
base of the Freedom Tower they're

1123
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:02,910
symbolically overcoming it or being

1124
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:05,190
above it or in Mecca there's that black

1125
00:44:09,590 --> 00:44:07,470
cube but it has the gold trim the gold

1126
00:44:12,830 --> 00:44:09,600
strip they're trying to I'll chemically

1127
00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:12,840
elevate the Saturnian symbol I guess

1128
00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:15,270
from their perspective right yeah and

1129
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,980
that's all very interesting stuff you

1130
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:18,720
said and I guess we could go down the

1131
00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:21,530
9/11 Road why not [\h__\h] it

1132
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,780
basically the whole idea about no planes

1133
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:26,640
and nobody dying that's very interesting

1134
00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:28,290
me I don't make definitive conclusions

1135
00:44:31,050 --> 00:44:29,430
I'm not going to tell you that nobody

1136
00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:31,060
died or died one that

1137
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:32,860
No we'll never really know but those

1138
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:34,060
perspectives I think are very

1139
00:44:38,310 --> 00:44:36,190
interesting in relation to this so you

1140
00:44:41,730 --> 00:44:38,320
could always say maybe they try to do

1141
00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:41,740
that but it didn't work but first of all

1142
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:43,480
the plains there's some weird numbers

1143
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:45,880
going on there and what I think is very

1144
00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:49,660
interesting is flight 93 that descended

1145
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:53,800
into matter and piccoli obliterated it

1146
00:44:57,210 --> 00:44:54,640
can't find it

1147
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:57,220
that's the thalamic number right right

1148
00:45:02,400 --> 00:44:59,410
and so if 93 is the Divine Will

1149
00:45:03,650 --> 00:45:02,410
that's the will of deity that comes from

1150
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:03,660
thy will be done in the New Testament

1151
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:06,400
that's the Greek word for it and so

1152
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:09,250
that's why it's seen as the essence of

1153
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:10,990
the God above the Demiurge because in

1154
00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:13,960
occultism Jesus Christ is teaching of

1155
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:16,300
the highest father and Orthodox

1156
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:18,190
Christians make the mistake that he's

1157
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:20,230
teaching of the Old Testament God in the

1158
00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:22,270
revealed sense he's teaching about the

1159
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:24,670
concealed one that's the viewpoint so

1160
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:26,110
Jesus is extremely important to

1161
00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:28,450
occultism as much as Orthodox Christians

1162
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:31,180
are sometimes confused on that but point

1163
00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:34,510
being is that if this is all about this

1164
00:45:41,540 --> 00:45:37,990
divine entity sacrificing itself going

1165
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:41,550
into the material world and it's United

1166
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:44,410
93 right it's unit like the unified

1167
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:48,610
deity descending into matter but it just

1168
00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:50,860
kind of obliterates there's no trace of

1169
00:45:55,110 --> 00:45:52,600
it and what happened was I think in the

1170
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:55,120
movie poster I was reading all of these

1171
00:45:59,220 --> 00:45:57,610
people unified into one to fight

1172
00:46:02,010 --> 00:45:59,230
whatever and this is their great

1173
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:02,020
sacrifice so I'm like wait a second you

1174
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,190
know on the UN website

1175
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:06,400
Lucifer solar angelic entity of the son

1176
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,390
of the pious will and that's descending

1177
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:12,880
into matter is a great sacrifice I just

1178
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:16,960
wonder if the 93 flight symbolically was

1179
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:19,330
representative of that and Pluto if

1180
00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:22,030
that's the divine fire enacting and

1181
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:24,550
obliterating the World Trade Center it's

1182
00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:26,710
very strange how well they collaborate

1183
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:29,260
and to bring it to the black cube and

1184
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:30,190
this is all stuff that I'm going to

1185
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,230
integrate into the 911 series when I get

1186
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,000
to it I have some things already set up

1187
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:36,640
for it but with the black 2 we have in

1188
00:46:42,110 --> 00:46:39,940
Mecca you know it's a black cube with

1189
00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:42,120
some gold around it

1190
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:44,220
I'm a fan of the band tool if you heard

1191
00:46:48,350 --> 00:46:46,680
this on The Grudge it's Saturn ascends

1192
00:46:51,110 --> 00:46:48,360
choose one or 10 so you're gonna choose

1193
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,120
the black or the gold and they're

1194
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:53,760
separated they're dualistic right but

1195
00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:55,500
that's the part of alchemy our unifying

1196
00:47:00,620 --> 00:46:56,940
it into one so if they're using a

1197
00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:00,630
profane doctrine like Abrahamic Islam to

1198
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:03,750
attack and then what happens as a result

1199
00:47:09,230 --> 00:47:06,450
is these two inverted cubes where the

1200
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:09,240
pillars were into the earth it's kind of

1201
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:12,390
like obliterating a profane doctrine and

1202
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:15,570
then unifying it into one with the true

1203
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:18,030
esoteric doctrine of the monad or

1204
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:20,040
whatever and that's this weird thing

1205
00:47:25,070 --> 00:47:22,650
with it that Saturn is associated with

1206
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:25,080
fear anxiety and terror and stuff like

1207
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:26,760
that so if they think that Islam

1208
00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:29,130
worships the Demiurge then they use that

1209
00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:32,550
archetype in their ritual and there you

1210
00:47:37,310 --> 00:47:35,340
go they have to use these profane things

1211
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:37,320
in these out chemical X because that's

1212
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:39,690
the whole nature of it your unifying

1213
00:47:44,810 --> 00:47:43,080
Godhead to be profane so in the

1214
00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:44,820
astrological alignment you are unifying

1215
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:48,150
Pluto which Curley associate with Qatar

1216
00:47:53,630 --> 00:47:49,770
and Kabbalah which is the highest sphere

1217
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,640
I think that's correct and so if Saturn

1218
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:55,740
is you know whatever the Demiurge the

1219
00:48:00,650 --> 00:47:58,170
[\h__\h] god you're unifying those with that

1220
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,660
opposition and you're bringing it

1221
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:02,640
together into one and so the astrology

1222
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:06,000
just tells the story you know yeah it is

1223
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:08,910
definitely deep and another thing I

1224
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:10,350
wanted to talk about while we're on this

1225
00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:14,040
dualism verse oneness set of worldviews

1226
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:16,350
to switch gears a little bit I like how

1227
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:19,050
the Flat Earth globe earth paradigms tie

1228
00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:22,710
into this occult philosophy dichotomy

1229
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,040
can you elaborate on that yeah sure

1230
00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:28,800
on a the godly globe in the profane

1231
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:32,190
plane I think it's video for basically

1232
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:33,750
that's the meaning of the compass and

1233
00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:36,210
square and again I say this as

1234
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:39,230
symbolically all these things represent

1235
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:43,140
similar themes of consciousness so all

1236
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:45,450
the things that are deemed as profane

1237
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:48,430
and what I mean by profane is

1238
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:51,150
the separateness so you can be a good

1239
00:48:56,130 --> 00:48:53,680
nice person on one hand but then you

1240
00:49:00,120 --> 00:48:56,140
have a dark side so that's like the

1241
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:00,130
shadow of the light and it's manifested

1242
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:02,110
side and you got to try to get rid of

1243
00:49:06,210 --> 00:49:03,970
that shadow and unify it into one and

1244
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:06,220
that is what you know eliminates sorrow

1245
00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:07,630
and suffering that's kind of like the

1246
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:11,140
philosophy behind it so the nature of

1247
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,890
man or earth is profaned that's the

1248
00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:16,720
shadow so if we have the Demiurge

1249
00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:20,320
creator archetype creates that of this

1250
00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:23,800
false ego and separates itself then that

1251
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:25,960
shadow will be cast onto earth so that

1252
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:27,730
means that the earth will be dualistic

1253
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:29,590
because it was created by a dualistic

1254
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:32,730
intent or God or consciousness right and

1255
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:36,610
so our pike talks about how the first

1256
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:38,770
and last lesson of Freemasonry like the

1257
00:49:43,170 --> 00:49:41,650
Alpha and the Omega are what the compass

1258
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,180
and square represent he says that the

1259
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:45,760
square represents plane geometry which

1260
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:48,730
is profane so you know of squares and

1261
00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:50,650
cubes and stuff like that and the cube

1262
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:54,070
represents Earth and then juxtaposed to

1263
00:50:00,330 --> 00:49:57,250
the spherical trigonometry which is

1264
00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:00,340
divine of the compass of the heavens so

1265
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:03,700
unifying a Flat Earth model to a globe

1266
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:05,710
earth model would be the same thing as

1267
00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:07,840
9/11 you're just performing alchemy

1268
00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:10,390
you're applying divinity to something

1269
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,700
profane and unifying it and I think

1270
00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:15,040
that's very strange because that's

1271
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:17,620
symbolic so this is where you know the

1272
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:20,200
flat earthers might argue well are they

1273
00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:22,270
just making this symbolic and if they

1274
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:24,220
think the material world's an illusion

1275
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:26,710
and all is consciousness then all that

1276
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:28,570
matters is what people believe about it

1277
00:50:32,670 --> 00:50:31,030
wouldn't that just be symbolic to them

1278
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,680
and that would be a motivation for

1279
00:50:36,810 --> 00:50:34,480
faking it now that's something that

1280
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:36,820
would lend to that argument or you could

1281
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:39,370
say on the other side maybe the above

1282
00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:41,350
science is as the below and they know

1283
00:50:46,410 --> 00:50:45,070
that and that's just reflected or you

1284
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:46,420
know there's a lot of different ways you

1285
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:48,250
could take that but it is very

1286
00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:50,890
interesting I just like to assign that

1287
00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:53,500
the lovers card to the compass or the

1288
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:55,900
sphere and the devil card to the square

1289
00:51:01,080 --> 00:50:59,290
because metaphysically as a mode of

1290
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:01,090
consciousness that's what it represents

1291
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:01,720
and

1292
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:04,570
what's so strange is because all of this

1293
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,430
conflict that's risen from this Flat

1294
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:09,520
Earth argument is polarizing things so I

1295
00:51:14,250 --> 00:51:12,010
just wonder if that's being used for

1296
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:14,260
some sort of alchemy down the road I

1297
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:16,300
don't know but it's very strange how

1298
00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:18,130
they need to polarize things to unify

1299
00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:20,590
and that's what the hidden hand dude

1300
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:23,320
said yeah that that's the nature of

1301
00:51:26,010 --> 00:51:24,640
everything that they do and I'm just

1302
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:26,020
like when I read that I'm like oh my

1303
00:51:30,450 --> 00:51:27,400
[\h__\h] guy are you serious

1304
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:30,460
is that I sorry if I swear cool we're

1305
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:33,369
adults it was just it was everything

1306
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:34,480
I've been reading was just kind of

1307
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,010
reaffirmed there and there's this quote

1308
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:39,520
in 1984 I believe it's like you know the

1309
00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:41,170
best books are the ones that reaffirm

1310
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:42,550
what you already know something to that

1311
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:44,440
effect and that's what I think I like

1312
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:46,030
it's like when I have these thoughts

1313
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:48,250
about things and then something sort of

1314
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:50,170
reaffirms that it just gives me comfort

1315
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:52,900
that okay I'm not that crazy somebody

1316
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:55,030
else has thought of this but I mean so

1317
00:51:59,359 --> 00:51:57,970
that's kind of why I like that quote so

1318
00:52:01,920 --> 00:51:59,369
I think that kind of applies to this

1319
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:01,930
yeah man I actually thought that was

1320
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:04,330
super interesting the stuff about the

1321
00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:06,609
free Masonic Square and compass and the

1322
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:08,380
square measuring things on a 2d flat

1323
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:10,420
plane and the compass being used to

1324
00:52:16,349 --> 00:52:13,030
measure circles are representing the

1325
00:52:19,859 --> 00:52:16,359
spherical view it's just so amazing I

1326
00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:19,869
think that Nexus is really fascinating

1327
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,940
and we have to remember how old this

1328
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:23,920
philosophy or occult religion really is

1329
00:52:27,329 --> 00:52:25,210
because I guess what I'm taking away

1330
00:52:29,220 --> 00:52:27,339
from this is that the Demiurge rules

1331
00:52:31,859 --> 00:52:29,230
this material world prison planet

1332
00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:31,869
illusion and because it's all illusion

1333
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:34,780
its structured to look flat with us in

1334
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:37,180
the middle as you know it's imperfect to

1335
00:52:41,339 --> 00:52:39,250
fuel the ego because if nobody told you

1336
00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:41,349
anything it would feel like you were in

1337
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:43,000
the center of the universe and that's

1338
00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:45,609
part of the trick this would be like the

1339
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,020
most base level $0.05 understanding and

1340
00:52:53,579 --> 00:52:51,760
one that the mass has probably had for a

1341
00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:53,589
long time but the point is I guess

1342
00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:55,750
there's been this secret tradition among

1343
00:52:59,940 --> 00:52:57,730
the elites where they've looked deeper

1344
00:53:01,800 --> 00:52:59,950
seen through the Demiurge ik illusion

1345
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:01,810
and behind closed doors going back who

1346
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:04,270
knows how long the elite have known the

1347
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:06,160
truth and didn't share it with the

1348
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:08,770
profane masses I guess is that the idea

1349
00:53:13,460 --> 00:53:11,010
is that one perspective

1350
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:13,470
uh yeah and maybe I can offer another

1351
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:17,040
one in connection with that so if these

1352
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:19,170
mystery traditions believe that they

1353
00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:22,950
have the truth and that this world is an

1354
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:26,630
illusion they're kind of shaping it how

1355
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:29,970
they believe that to be true right

1356
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:31,740
through human consciousness and stuff

1357
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:35,550
like that and our awareness and so the

1358
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:38,790
question is with the Demiurge and

1359
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:41,190
everything that we talked about with

1360
00:53:44,660 --> 00:53:42,690
shedding the ego this is what I want to

1361
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:44,670
talk about okay shedding the ego right

1362
00:53:51,050 --> 00:53:46,650
this is something I completely resonate

1363
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:51,060
with in Gnosticism where you want to get

1364
00:53:58,180 --> 00:53:54,410
rid of the things that

1365
00:53:59,980 --> 00:53:58,190
are your own egoic will holding you in

1366
00:54:01,150 --> 00:53:59,990
the way from understanding things this

1367
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:01,160
is something that's related to my life

1368
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:03,710
many times you know when I finally had

1369
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,390
been like okay maybe I was wrong about

1370
00:54:10,930 --> 00:54:08,000
this and I was an idiot for thinking so

1371
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:10,940
all of a sudden all these things open up

1372
00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:12,710
to you that answer questions that you

1373
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:15,470
never really knew before I resonate with

1374
00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:18,170
that a lot but this kind of gets back to

1375
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:21,560
the idea of you know like I said freedom

1376
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:23,930
is a word how is that implemented so

1377
00:54:29,530 --> 00:54:27,410
shedding your ego that is a concept but

1378
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:29,540
how is that implemented because what I

1379
00:54:33,820 --> 00:54:30,950
think is very interesting about a lot of

1380
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:33,830
esoteric stuff it comes across as really

1381
00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:36,320
arrogant sometimes yeah very

1382
00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:37,100
condescending

1383
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:39,740
are you really shedding your ego is that

1384
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:42,410
what you think you're doing but you can

1385
00:54:48,370 --> 00:54:46,010
still learn from all of this literature

1386
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:48,380
in a very profound way and this is what

1387
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:50,210
I think is another perspective I'd like

1388
00:54:53,350 --> 00:54:51,950
to add I'm not saying that this is the

1389
00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:53,360
way it is or anything like that but just

1390
00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:56,780
something to consider is what if the

1391
00:55:06,529 --> 00:55:03,559
all of the attributes of what Demiurge

1392
00:55:08,749 --> 00:55:06,539
is and Gnosticism but they are actually

1393
00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:08,759
the duplication and their God they think

1394
00:55:14,749 --> 00:55:12,630
is the one is actually the copy and that

1395
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:14,759
the way all this implements that a lot

1396
00:55:19,429 --> 00:55:16,410
of people who are into Gnosticism

1397
00:55:23,179 --> 00:55:19,439
resonates with there's actually a force

1398
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:23,189
above that that is letting all of this

1399
00:55:27,819 --> 00:55:25,890
happen for a divine reason in the end

1400
00:55:30,289 --> 00:55:27,829
now here's what I think is interesting

1401
00:55:34,969 --> 00:55:30,299
what if that force is actually the

1402
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:34,979
creator of the material world and this

1403
00:55:38,329 --> 00:55:36,689
force that thinks that it's the the

1404
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:38,339
highest creator the grand architect or

1405
00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:41,369
whatever is actually the projection of

1406
00:55:45,499 --> 00:55:43,559
its own ego and so when you get all

1407
00:55:45,979 --> 00:55:45,509
these exoteric religions bashing the

1408
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:45,989
creator

1409
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:49,920
maybe that bashing is just that forces

1410
00:55:55,429 --> 00:55:52,680
projection of that so for example say

1411
00:55:56,779 --> 00:55:55,439
there's some guy who I don't like and I

1412
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:56,789
just go up to somebody and be like hey

1413
00:56:01,429 --> 00:55:58,170
you know that guy he's a child molester

1414
00:56:03,529 --> 00:56:01,439
yeah totally I know it I saw it happen I

1415
00:56:05,620 --> 00:56:03,539
could have made that up completely but

1416
00:56:07,939 --> 00:56:05,630
the perception from that person I told

1417
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:07,949
it will be tainted of that person

1418
00:56:12,859 --> 00:56:10,650
big-time yeah so what if they have

1419
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:12,869
slandered the creator of the material

1420
00:56:17,509 --> 00:56:14,910
world through all the exoteric religions

1421
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:17,519
and made it seem so crazy that that is

1422
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:20,819
the candy the straw man to bring people

1423
00:56:27,469 --> 00:56:25,079
into their mystery religion to exalt the

1424
00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:27,479
actual duplication see what I'm saying

1425
00:56:31,849 --> 00:56:29,160
so this is why I resonate with the

1426
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:31,859
Orthodox version of Lucifer just in a

1427
00:56:34,939 --> 00:56:33,569
mode of consciousness not taking

1428
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:34,949
anything literally here I'm not saying

1429
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:37,170
it's actual winged angel or anything but

1430
00:56:43,279 --> 00:56:40,529
just an intelligence that was created as

1431
00:56:46,999 --> 00:56:43,289
the most divine beautiful charming

1432
00:56:48,229 --> 00:56:47,009
charismatic entity but it was corrupted

1433
00:56:52,459 --> 00:56:48,239
by that thinking it should be the

1434
00:56:55,339 --> 00:56:52,469
highest God and so there is this idea

1435
00:56:58,249 --> 00:56:55,349
that that entity fooled a bunch of

1436
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:58,259
people into following it and what if

1437
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:02,160
what we're in right now is this entities

1438
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:05,249
chance to prove itself and all it does

1439
00:57:09,499 --> 00:57:07,170
when it [\h__\h] up is it blame it on all

1440
00:57:12,949 --> 00:57:09,509
these profane people but we are able to

1441
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:12,959
witness this and we can derive truth

1442
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:13,710
from the

1443
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:16,440
election and since it's so close to the

1444
00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:19,530
top source it's like anything that is

1445
00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:21,720
great and quality and everything but

1446
00:57:26,359 --> 00:57:23,849
they use all of those amazing qualities

1447
00:57:28,310 --> 00:57:26,369
for their own ego but they want to trick

1448
00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:28,320
you into thinking that they're helping

1449
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:30,839
you like for example you know somebody

1450
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:32,010
see somebody coming at them with a

1451
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:33,750
baseball bat and really angry at them

1452
00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:35,849
you know okay this guy is out to get me

1453
00:57:39,380 --> 00:57:37,500
I'm going to run away that's bad right

1454
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:39,390
but if somebody comes up to you with

1455
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:41,369
flowers and like hey how you doing but

1456
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:42,930
they have a knife behind their back and

1457
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:45,540
they won't give you the knife until you

1458
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:48,210
actually act in a way that they don't

1459
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,099
want you to then you just think that

1460
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:53,280
your friend and so maybe that is the

1461
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:55,410
essence of what the elites are actually

1462
00:57:59,900 --> 00:57:57,300
following but all the concepts that we

1463
00:58:02,930 --> 00:57:59,910
learn and a lot of Gnostic philosophy

1464
00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:02,940
are applicable and actually profound

1465
00:58:08,570 --> 00:58:06,180
it's giving us a blueprint but maybe the

1466
00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:08,580
script is completely flipped you know

1467
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:10,830
what I mean and so I think that that's

1468
00:58:13,940 --> 00:58:12,180
one thing that maybe at least like the

1469
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,950
flatter side of it a lot of those people

1470
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:15,599
are coming to this understanding like oh

1471
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:18,210
maybe there is a creator and you know

1472
00:58:21,260 --> 00:58:19,710
they're kind of enamored with that and

1473
00:58:23,210 --> 00:58:21,270
maybe that's kind of one of those things

1474
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:23,220
that just that mode of consciousness is

1475
00:58:28,099 --> 00:58:26,490
upsetting the powers that be despite

1476
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:28,109
what the shape of the earth actually is

1477
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:30,210
I don't not arguing for it but maybe

1478
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,710
it's the modality of consciousness

1479
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:33,119
that's making them angry about that

1480
00:58:36,290 --> 00:58:34,650
because that represents the square to

1481
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:36,300
them so that to me is another

1482
00:58:40,609 --> 00:58:38,099
perspective that kind of takes it to a

1483
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,619
different level about all this but

1484
00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:42,480
whether or not that's truth I don't know

1485
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:44,070
I'm just saying that that's a different

1486
00:58:47,630 --> 00:58:46,170
way to look at it exactly and that's

1487
00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:47,640
what I love I love trying on different

1488
00:58:51,260 --> 00:58:49,500
hats and looking at things in different

1489
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:51,270
ways and it comes down to

1490
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:53,580
after you absorb all this material who

1491
00:58:58,339 --> 00:58:55,500
do you trust which level of the elevator

1492
00:59:00,260 --> 00:58:58,349
do you get off on like it you could pick

1493
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,270
whatever and that's why I don't really

1494
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:01,920
pick a side because I think there's so

1495
00:59:06,290 --> 00:59:03,930
much manipulation and this stuff is so

1496
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:06,300
ancient and it's just tough because

1497
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:08,730
everybody is demonizing their enemies

1498
00:59:13,339 --> 00:59:11,730
and trying to influence the profane

1499
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:13,349
masses which I guess I'm a part of

1500
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:17,490
unfortunately and I'm proud of it amen

1501
00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:19,650
so it is really hard to get a handle on

1502
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:21,720
and I do think that's why we see a

1503
00:59:25,790 --> 00:59:23,490
resurgence of the Flat Earth idea

1504
00:59:26,650 --> 00:59:25,800
because now the profane masses think the

1505
00:59:27,849 --> 00:59:26,660
earth is round

1506
00:59:31,029 --> 00:59:27,859
and the organizations that have been

1507
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:31,039
exploring heliocentrism the Big Bang and

1508
00:59:35,620 --> 00:59:32,720
the infinite universe have have these

1509
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,630
like free Masonic Vatican ties in the

1510
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:38,000
beginning so the reaction is okay that

1511
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:40,130
must be the illusion but it does beg the

1512
00:59:44,769 --> 00:59:42,440
question if the Flat Earth understanding

1513
00:59:46,029 --> 00:59:44,779
was originally for the profane masses

1514
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:46,039
how did this

1515
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,200
I guess secret this higher understanding

1516
00:59:51,609 --> 00:59:50,000
of the globe earth ever become the

1517
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:51,619
standard why would they do that why

1518
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:52,849
would they let that happen

1519
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:54,890
yeah and you know that really just plays

1520
01:00:02,380 --> 00:59:59,119
into the idea that what is reality you

1521
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:02,390
know is it the material world or is it

1522
01:00:08,289 --> 01:00:05,119
the perception of it and this is what I

1523
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:08,299
think the Flat Earth debate where I'm

1524
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:11,690
with it is that I really am fascinated

1525
01:00:20,259 --> 01:00:16,569
with the psychological reactions or

1526
01:00:22,299 --> 01:00:20,269
levels of awareness and things that are

1527
01:00:24,730 --> 01:00:22,309
coming out of people from a metaphysical

1528
01:00:26,769 --> 01:00:24,740
level psychologically mm-hmm that's

1529
01:00:28,539 --> 01:00:26,779
what's so crazy about it to me where I

1530
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:28,549
don't really actually care either way

1531
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,730
yeah but maybe that is more of the

1532
01:00:35,799 --> 01:00:33,680
nature of the reality is people's

1533
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:35,809
perceptions of things so it's it's like

1534
01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:38,930
this enigma you kind of circle back to

1535
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:41,630
well is this the material world reality

1536
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:43,670
or is this just people's perception and

1537
01:00:47,289 --> 01:00:45,410
is perception really all that matters

1538
01:00:48,190 --> 01:00:47,299
you know and that's where it's like you

1539
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:48,200
know I don't want to get overly

1540
01:00:51,789 --> 01:00:49,910
philosophical and stuff like that but

1541
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:51,799
it's it's so hard to make a definitive

1542
01:00:56,829 --> 01:00:54,410
statement on any of that stuff from my

1543
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:56,839
perspective and I think when you do that

1544
01:01:01,859 --> 01:00:59,359
leads you into a polarity and all of a

1545
01:01:04,469 --> 01:01:01,869
sudden you have people

1546
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:04,479
to me coming from the negative aspects

1547
01:01:08,910 --> 01:01:07,089
of the flatterer camp I think jaren ISM

1548
01:01:10,349 --> 01:01:08,920
you probably heard of him right right he

1549
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:10,359
did this thing with Max Egan and Max

1550
01:01:16,049 --> 01:01:13,689
Egan was providing evidence for these

1551
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:16,059
flights and people in the comments are

1552
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:18,400
saying Oh max Egan as part of a

1553
01:01:21,689 --> 01:01:19,930
green-screen he's not even at this

1554
01:01:22,589 --> 01:01:21,699
Airport I'm like what the [\h__\h] is wrong

1555
01:01:24,569 --> 01:01:22,599
with him

1556
01:01:26,249 --> 01:01:24,579
like I'll are you serious because they

1557
01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:26,259
want to believe so badly

1558
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:28,869
and the flat earth that when some

1559
01:01:33,870 --> 01:01:31,089
evidence as minut as it might be

1560
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,880
contradicts that they're willing to take

1561
01:01:38,459 --> 01:01:35,680
it to the level that max Egan is

1562
01:01:40,699 --> 01:01:38,469
creating a CGI to fool them I'm just

1563
01:01:43,259 --> 01:01:40,709
like are you are you insane I'm sorry

1564
01:01:45,449 --> 01:01:43,269
and that's the thing that's the negative

1565
01:01:48,779 --> 01:01:45,459
side that's the extreme polarity of the

1566
01:01:51,269 --> 01:01:48,789
flat earth side that I see and so that's

1567
01:01:54,809 --> 01:01:51,279
what concerns me it's that this

1568
01:01:57,749 --> 01:01:54,819
polarization is the fuel for the people

1569
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:57,759
running this so that's why I just that's

1570
01:02:02,039 --> 01:01:58,930
what I'm trying to do with this series

1571
01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:02,049
is saying that this is all more shades

1572
01:02:06,059 --> 01:02:03,640
of gray than black and white than people

1573
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:06,069
think it is and if you take it to the

1574
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:08,890
extremes you're actually fueling energy

1575
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:10,689
for the elites to manipulate and I think

1576
01:02:17,249 --> 01:02:14,559
we can all agree on some level that the

1577
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:17,259
elites aren't good now people might take

1578
01:02:20,669 --> 01:02:19,150
the level of the hidden hand okay they

1579
01:02:22,109 --> 01:02:20,679
are doing something good for us and we

1580
01:02:23,699 --> 01:02:22,119
just don't understand it I don't

1581
01:02:25,289 --> 01:02:23,709
personally and I think that most

1582
01:02:28,009 --> 01:02:25,299
truthers probably don't take that

1583
01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:28,019
viewpoint so what I'm saying is okay

1584
01:02:32,999 --> 01:02:31,150
what we do know from their writings and

1585
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:33,009
apparently what they self professed to

1586
01:02:37,469 --> 01:02:35,049
us on above top secret if that's legit

1587
01:02:40,169 --> 01:02:37,479
is that they use these polarities so

1588
01:02:42,269 --> 01:02:40,179
let's not give them that no yeah that's

1589
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:42,279
that's basically what I would answer

1590
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:46,569
that with amen and kind of on this same

1591
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:49,089
tip there's also a Kabbalistic

1592
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:51,910
connection or an underlying basis for

1593
01:02:57,299 --> 01:02:54,400
why the prevailing theory about the

1594
01:02:59,939 --> 01:02:57,309
Earth's core is that it's iron you know

1595
01:03:03,029 --> 01:02:59,949
kind of like the way they took their

1596
01:03:05,849 --> 01:03:03,039
esoteric philosophy and put out the Big

1597
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:05,859
Bang Theory as kind of a version of it

1598
01:03:09,929 --> 01:03:08,170
that's kind of where the idea that the

1599
01:03:12,209 --> 01:03:09,939
Earth's core is iron comes from right or

1600
01:03:15,419 --> 01:03:12,219
at least it jives really well with their

1601
01:03:15,730 --> 01:03:15,429
Kabbalistic viewpoint yeah yeah the iron

1602
01:03:17,530 --> 01:03:15,740
core

1603
01:03:19,150 --> 01:03:17,540
thing is weird I was going to just do

1604
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:19,160
something very briefly on that and then

1605
01:03:21,790 --> 01:03:20,330
I looked into it a little bit more I'm

1606
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:21,800
like hmm this is very interesting

1607
01:03:27,790 --> 01:03:24,530
because an alchemy you know each of the

1608
01:03:31,570 --> 01:03:27,800
planets is assigned a metal and so Mars

1609
01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:31,580
is iron and this is in the nature of the

1610
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:34,070
Melissa 'kz of astrology and you know

1611
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:35,540
this might be a little complex or some

1612
01:03:41,130 --> 01:03:36,890
people might not be familiar with this

1613
01:03:43,330 --> 01:03:41,140
but if you go to I think it's video 5.1

1614
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:43,340
basically on the tree of life which I'm

1615
01:03:47,290 --> 01:03:44,810
sure everybody's familiar with in

1616
01:03:48,820 --> 01:03:47,300
Kabbalah you have the spheres on the

1617
01:03:50,530 --> 01:03:48,830
left pillar which is the dark pillar

1618
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:50,540
that's the shadow pillar that you're

1619
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:52,610
trying to kind of purge and unify with

1620
01:03:56,590 --> 01:03:55,010
the other side you have Saturn and Mars

1621
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:56,600
and those are the meliss of astrology

1622
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:01,280
and so they work together in harmony in

1623
01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:04,880
this dark way so the devil tarot card is

1624
01:04:09,220 --> 01:04:07,160
the card for Capricorn and Capricorn is

1625
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:09,230
ruled by Saturn and that is like the

1626
01:04:12,820 --> 01:04:11,119
winter solstice you know the greatest

1627
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:12,830
point of darkness all these things and

1628
01:04:18,850 --> 01:04:16,250
so that is the sign that exalts Mars so

1629
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:18,860
it allows it its highest expression so

1630
01:04:24,490 --> 01:04:22,609
if Mars is like this active force but in

1631
01:04:27,609 --> 01:04:24,500
its negative sense that's the duality

1632
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:27,619
the Demiurge the destructive irrational

1633
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:30,170
nature of jehovah that's that mode of

1634
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:32,570
consciousness that works with saturn

1635
01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:34,250
because that's the essence of the

1636
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:36,230
Demiurge they're kind of like these are

1637
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:38,720
different aspects of it right so those

1638
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:40,850
are kind of unified where gravity is

1639
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:43,520
associated with the Demiurge and saturn

1640
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:45,530
pulling you towards materiality right

1641
01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:46,640
and Capricorn is one of these

1642
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:49,460
materialistic signs I'm a Capricorn so

1643
01:04:55,210 --> 01:04:52,850
apparently I'm profane but so it's

1644
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:55,220
pulling you to the center and then Mars

1645
01:04:59,740 --> 01:04:57,410
is the force that is allowed as highest

1646
01:05:03,670 --> 01:04:59,750
expression through that Saturnian

1647
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:03,680
Capricorn energy and so that is what is

1648
01:05:10,780 --> 01:05:06,590
working with it so having the iron core

1649
01:05:12,730 --> 01:05:10,790
fits the nature of Kabbalah and how they

1650
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:12,740
view earth being earth is you know

1651
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:15,850
profane in its current state and so

1652
01:05:19,780 --> 01:05:17,690
everything that's pulling you to the

1653
01:05:22,810 --> 01:05:19,790
center materiality the force is the pan

1654
01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:22,820
force of Mars and then the one above

1655
01:05:27,010 --> 01:05:24,500
that on the Tree of Life is the false

1656
01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:27,020
crown so to speak so it's weird because

1657
01:05:31,180 --> 01:05:29,540
it's almost like well they've either

1658
01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:31,190
autoload all these things off of their

1659
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:33,590
religion right or there is some truth to

1660
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:36,710
that and it corresponds but you could

1661
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:38,690
also say that because this is what I

1662
01:05:43,030 --> 01:05:40,370
think about the heliocentric stuff say

1663
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:43,040
the heliocentric model is correct what

1664
01:05:47,350 --> 01:05:45,680
if they are taking credit for that with

1665
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:47,360
their idea that they're worshiping the

1666
01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:49,010
one God and that's just the projection

1667
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:51,470
and they're just trying to say hey we

1668
01:05:55,060 --> 01:05:53,450
created all this you know so you could

1669
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:55,070
take the globe argument and argue it

1670
01:05:59,230 --> 01:05:57,650
that way in the level of human

1671
01:06:00,700 --> 01:05:59,240
perception and say that they're just

1672
01:06:03,340 --> 01:06:00,710
trying to take credit for the real

1673
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:03,350
creators work who knows but right point

1674
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:05,090
being is that all of these things that

1675
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:07,790
we're told in science are very very

1676
01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:10,310
profoundly connected to the esoteric

1677
01:06:14,980 --> 01:06:12,590
stuff but unless you understand some of

1678
01:06:16,090 --> 01:06:14,990
these fundamentals about the meliss and

1679
01:06:17,860 --> 01:06:16,100
stuff like that you wouldn't really know

1680
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:17,870
that and so that's what I'm just trying

1681
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:19,130
to throw out there I don't know why this

1682
01:06:22,450 --> 01:06:21,710
is the way it is but those connections

1683
01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:22,460
are there you know

1684
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:25,430
yeah man cheers to that I think that is

1685
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:29,450
kind of a real aha moment that people

1686
01:06:33,250 --> 01:06:31,610
should have because we've analyzed a lot

1687
01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:33,260
of this stuff through many shows of

1688
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:34,910
course people do their own digging too

1689
01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:36,890
and they see these weird connections and

1690
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:39,380
yeah just like you said there kind of

1691
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:42,110
seems to be three possibilities either

1692
01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:44,810
these are real discoveries that just

1693
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:47,510
happen to validate their secret hidden

1694
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:49,850
religion that we don't know about so

1695
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:52,490
we're ignorant of it or - they're just

1696
01:06:56,830 --> 01:06:55,070
applying their religious ideas to

1697
01:06:59,290 --> 01:06:56,840
questions that we don't really have the

1698
01:07:01,570 --> 01:06:59,300
answer for yet or to get yeah while

1699
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:01,580
they're still there trying - will these

1700
01:07:06,430 --> 01:07:03,710
things into existence by making them the

1701
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:06,440
dominant worldview firmly planted in the

1702
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:08,450
minds of the masses and like you said

1703
01:07:14,290 --> 01:07:10,760
earlier is perception all that matters

1704
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:14,300
that is kind of where we're going with

1705
01:07:18,070 --> 01:07:16,130
this right I mean it's so interesting I

1706
01:07:21,610 --> 01:07:18,080
mean it's like David Icke says the

1707
01:07:23,350 --> 01:07:21,620
perception deception yeah and you know I

1708
01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:23,360
think some of his comments on the Flat

1709
01:07:26,170 --> 01:07:24,950
Earth have been in this nature or he's

1710
01:07:27,940 --> 01:07:26,180
like well what does it really matter

1711
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:27,950
because of the perception of it and it's

1712
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:30,650
weird because some people criticize them

1713
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:31,910
for that but I have a part of me that

1714
01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:33,350
can agree with that but I have a part of

1715
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:35,000
me that still is well

1716
01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:37,430
what if our senses don't deceive us you

1717
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:39,620
know it's really difficult man I'm so

1718
01:07:43,089 --> 01:07:41,330
torn between a lot of these things that

1719
01:07:44,979 --> 01:07:43,099
you know one day I'll

1720
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:44,989
and be like dude it's flat this is what

1721
01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:46,670
they're just lying to us and then

1722
01:07:50,140 --> 01:07:48,200
another day I'm like dude they're

1723
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:50,150
[\h__\h] with us like I just don't know

1724
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:51,410
you know what I mean so that's why I

1725
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:53,210
don't like making a decision on it but

1726
01:07:56,349 --> 01:07:55,039
that that's the question for the

1727
01:07:59,319 --> 01:07:56,359
audience to answer that's what I always

1728
01:08:02,140 --> 01:07:59,329
say well there's just a real parallel

1729
01:08:05,049 --> 01:08:02,150
that I think people should think about

1730
01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:05,059
we're just like a biblical literalist

1731
01:08:09,579 --> 01:08:07,670
wants to say because this is my paradigm

1732
01:08:12,339 --> 01:08:09,589
the earth is only six thousand years old

1733
01:08:13,779 --> 01:08:12,349
or whatever and thus dinosaurs couldn't

1734
01:08:15,069 --> 01:08:13,789
have existed they just couldn't I don't

1735
01:08:16,209 --> 01:08:15,079
care if you find bones there couldn't

1736
01:08:19,629 --> 01:08:16,219
they couldn't be there because this is

1737
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:19,639
my paradigm moving in that same way the

1738
01:08:25,149 --> 01:08:22,400
elite could be saying well the earth is

1739
01:08:26,979 --> 01:08:25,159
an iron core because my religion says it

1740
01:08:28,450 --> 01:08:26,989
would be because I'm a Kabbalist that's

1741
01:08:30,999 --> 01:08:28,460
exactly the point I'm trying to get

1742
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:31,009
across is that right you still have to

1743
01:08:34,930 --> 01:08:32,690
realize that maybe they're fighting for

1744
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:34,940
their own religion I don't know but

1745
01:08:38,109 --> 01:08:36,409
that's the point I'm trying to make and

1746
01:08:39,939 --> 01:08:38,119
that's what I kind of appeal in the

1747
01:08:41,890 --> 01:08:39,949
beginning to people who might be you

1748
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:41,900
know if anybody happens to be in the

1749
01:08:44,979 --> 01:08:43,730
matrix and they're just pissed off at

1750
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:44,989
the flat earthers and they happen to

1751
01:08:49,329 --> 01:08:47,449
stumble upon my video I try to make it

1752
01:08:51,490 --> 01:08:49,339
at least somewhat appealing to them in

1753
01:08:53,740 --> 01:08:51,500
the beginning right and say that you

1754
01:08:55,599 --> 01:08:53,750
know maybe everything that you've been

1755
01:08:59,079 --> 01:08:55,609
taught from Neil deGrasse Tyson and

1756
01:09:00,280 --> 01:08:59,089
whatever all those people is the mystery

1757
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:00,290
religion so you're being taught a

1758
01:09:03,999 --> 01:09:02,449
religion yet you hate religion isn't

1759
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:04,009
that a concern to you isn't that a red

1760
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,040
flag at least to address you know God

1761
01:09:11,530 --> 01:09:09,679
man that's great but back to what you

1762
01:09:12,939 --> 01:09:11,540
said this is something I haven't I still

1763
01:09:15,099 --> 01:09:12,949
have a ways to go in the series I'm

1764
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:15,109
probably halfway or 2/3 way through but

1765
01:09:19,089 --> 01:09:17,089
one thing I want to touch upon is about

1766
01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:19,099
energy sources and what's interesting is

1767
01:09:23,019 --> 01:09:21,500
this relates to astrology where you have

1768
01:09:24,519 --> 01:09:23,029
the positive negative sides of the

1769
01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:24,529
zodiac so the positive would basically

1770
01:09:28,809 --> 01:09:26,420
be like the compass they come from the

1771
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:28,819
deity the negative comes from Earth and

1772
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:31,730
so the reason you might have a negative

1773
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:35,440
quality is that's a potential to kind of

1774
01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:37,730
purge the bad things about it and use it

1775
01:09:40,089 --> 01:09:39,230
to advantage so for example like I said

1776
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:40,099
I'm a Capricorn

1777
01:09:45,370 --> 01:09:42,830
so instinctively I'm supposed to be more

1778
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:45,380
pessimistic and materialistic and

1779
01:09:49,390 --> 01:09:47,810
whatever but the positive qualities is

1780
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,400
that you're supposed to you know be good

1781
01:09:54,370 --> 01:09:51,199
at working hard and have a good work

1782
01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:54,380
ethic and have a drive right so if you

1783
01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:56,119
use those drives for negative things

1784
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:57,070
like pursuing

1785
01:10:00,990 --> 01:09:58,960
a corporate ladder oh I want to use all

1786
01:10:04,290 --> 01:10:01,000
of my energy and hard work to get a

1787
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:04,300
yacht then that's profaning it but you

1788
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:06,700
have the divine spark but it's buried so

1789
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:08,830
you have to climb out of that and if you

1790
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:10,810
pursue more spiritual things that will

1791
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:12,130
create better things in your life and

1792
01:10:16,380 --> 01:10:13,510
that's something I can resonate with you

1793
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:16,390
know but the point being is that is a

1794
01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:19,270
negative quality from the start so this

1795
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:21,070
gets to the energy sources right and

1796
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:23,530
we're taught fossil fuels right dinosaur

1797
01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:26,050
fuels like Tyrannosaurus Rex the tyrant

1798
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:27,790
king of the Demiurge that's where it

1799
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:30,730
comes from that's black goo oil of

1800
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:34,270
Saturn those are all terrible fuels that

1801
01:10:39,660 --> 01:10:37,510
pollute everything and coal stuff like

1802
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:39,670
that and then we have hydropower which

1803
01:10:43,620 --> 01:10:41,740
people say is you know better but not

1804
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:43,630
very efficient and still causes

1805
01:10:48,450 --> 01:10:45,910
environmental destruction and then we

1806
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:48,460
have illuminated sources of the positive

1807
01:10:53,220 --> 01:10:51,130
of the air of the solar right because

1808
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:53,230
the fire sign obviously is associated

1809
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:55,330
with the solar energy which is positive

1810
01:11:00,090 --> 01:10:57,610
and the air sign is a positive sign as

1811
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:00,100
well so we have wind energy and solar

1812
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:01,570
energy that's associated with the

1813
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:03,550
positive signs of the zodiac so we're

1814
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:05,050
being told that all of these earthly

1815
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:07,810
fuels are profane and all of these

1816
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:10,570
positive energy sources are divine and

1817
01:11:15,660 --> 01:11:13,630
so some people argue well fossil fuels

1818
01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:15,670
don't even exist and they're very

1819
01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:17,980
plentiful so that's a lot of people on

1820
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:19,480
the Flat Earth I will probably argue

1821
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:21,070
that way because Eric Dubay I think did

1822
01:11:25,710 --> 01:11:23,650
the whole documentary on dinosaurs not

1823
01:11:28,170 --> 01:11:25,720
existing and like you know fossil fuels

1824
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:28,180
not being what they think they are and

1825
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,900
you know nukes

1826
01:11:32,130 --> 01:11:30,880
being a hoax all that [\h__\h] no that's

1827
01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:32,140
something for anybody to sign their own

1828
01:11:36,380 --> 01:11:33,460
I'm not giving an opinion on those

1829
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:36,390
things but the fact remains is those

1830
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:39,490
esoteric archetypes and modalities are

1831
01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:41,950
interwoven into our energy sources and

1832
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:45,820
just like man it's so weird yeah it is

1833
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:47,590
then maybe that's why they have fought

1834
01:11:54,150 --> 01:11:51,190
for oil and kind of basically shoehorned

1835
01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:54,160
us into just that one energy source you

1836
01:11:58,440 --> 01:11:56,590
could say coal also black this is the

1837
01:12:02,010 --> 01:11:58,450
weird black Saturnian things I don't

1838
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:02,020
know it is a really interesting though

1839
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:05,770
and well man I love this I could do it

1840
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:07,450
all day and I definitely find these

1841
01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:09,340
ideas provocative and I love trying to

1842
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:09,820
wrap my

1843
01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:12,460
head around new angles so I really

1844
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:13,990
appreciate you bringing all this to the

1845
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:15,850
table I think it's damn near criminal

1846
01:12:19,530 --> 01:12:17,170
that you don't have more views and

1847
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:19,540
subscribers on this YouTube channel of

1848
01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:21,010
course there will be links in the show

1849
01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:22,780
notes but anyone interested should

1850
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:24,520
definitely go through it I think it's

1851
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:26,590
deeper and more informative than a lot

1852
01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:28,720
of paid classes on the same kind of

1853
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:30,760
stuff so great job man

1854
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:32,770
well thank you and I appreciate it and

1855
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:34,870
one thing I'd like to mention is that in

1856
01:12:40,530 --> 01:12:38,080
my videos I have a link that goes to a

1857
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:40,540
Dropbox's that has all the references

1858
01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:42,790
for everything I talk about and anything

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01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:44,200
I talked about in the video that I don't

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provide a reference for on the screen is

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probably in the references link so I

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want to be able to source everything as

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transparently as possible it's like this

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is where I'm drawing from and check it

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out for yourself you know if you come to

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01:13:02,250 --> 01:12:59,890
different conclusions on what levansky

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says here or there that's fine but I'm

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just trying to be open about it so

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people can make up their own minds about

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it mm-hmm and I think that's great I do

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have a lot of people who come to me and

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I asked them you know what do you get

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01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:14,740
out of THC or why do you like it and

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01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,540
they like this show because they

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:18,640
consider it a crash course and a lot of

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01:13:23,460 --> 01:13:21,370
these really deep topics and theories

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01:13:25,950 --> 01:13:23,470
that they just don't really have time to

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get into at that serious depth and I

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think that that's what's great about

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your series is a lot of this material is

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intimidating because it is so expansive

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01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:34,420
and each individual author you go into

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01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:36,640
has like 10 books so it could be pretty

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tough and you provide a kind of a crash

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01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:42,220
course I would say even I think that's

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01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:43,540
selling it short I think it's a little

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01:13:48,810 --> 01:13:45,640
more in-depth than that but you really

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01:13:50,970 --> 01:13:48,820
do kind of fill that role of introducing

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people to a lot of deep stuff and giving

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them the context of exactly where it

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01:13:57,660 --> 01:13:54,550
came from kind of the cliffnotes

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01:13:59,970 --> 01:13:57,670
to a lot of really deep and complex

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01:14:01,950 --> 01:13:59,980
stuff so it's great and before we go

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there any other contact information or

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:03,970
follow-up information that the people

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01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:05,650
should get before we get out of here

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uh not really what you see is what you

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get on the youtube I am backing stuff up

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on Vimeo I don't really like it there

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01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:16,060
because they only allow you to upload

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stuff in increments and I'm not going to

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pay tons of money for it because I

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:21,760
already pay enough money for a lot of

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01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:22,930
these books and

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you know if anything I would offer is

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like you know definitely if you if you

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01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:29,740
want to go in more depth on these things

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on your own buy some of the books that

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01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:35,230
I'm sourcing from and read it for

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yourself because it would be helpful

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01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:39,550
with more people look at the stuff and

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maybe could make other applications

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because I'm just one person and I can't

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you know I I have my own strengths and

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01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:48,070
weaknesses and I can only give out so

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01:14:51,090 --> 01:14:49,540
much so if people really want to look

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:51,100
more into that I really encourage people

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to look at it themselves but I think the

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most fundamental thing is to think about

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what is the esoteric and exoteric

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version from their viewpoint always try

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to look at it from their viewpoint and

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then think well what is my viewpoint you

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01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:06,250
know what I mean and I think that that

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will help people and their interactions

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with other people and maybe alleviate

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some of the tension that happens from

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some of these misconceptions about what

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all these folks believe so mmm cheers to

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that and then your recall and synthesis

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is just super impressive to my simple

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stoner mind but damn Debus show in a

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while I'd have to say so interesting

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stuff thanks for being here man

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hopefully we can do it again sometime

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yeah anytime something catches your

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interest give me a shout I usually have

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pretty good availability and I just

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appreciate the opportunity and thank you

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I've always enjoyed your demeanor and

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:53,890
your intros and your objectivity I think

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that you're one of my favorite it is not

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01:16:01,230 --> 01:15:58,720
being like you know a brown-noser I'm

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:01,240
being honest like I really enjoy your

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01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:02,770
level of being able to play devil's

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advocate on things because I think

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that's important and that's kind of what

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I'm trying to do here in a way that's

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just presenting different viewpoints and

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that's one of the reasons why I think

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that I resonate so much with your

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01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:16,870
general vibe and personality and I'm

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:19,150
just happy to have been a part of this

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ha to kind man but you know some of

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those other hosts out there they set the

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bar pretty low so you know can't take

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:29,260
too much credit but I appreciate it and

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keep fighting the good fight I thanks a

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lot Greg

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Michael Joseph ladies and gentlemen I

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hope you liked this one because I

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actually think it's a home run even

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though there is a lot of speculation and

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01:16:45,959 --> 01:16:44,680
that kind of well you could look at it

1965
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:45,969
this way or you could look at it that

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01:16:51,450 --> 01:16:48,730
way kind of thing I still really enjoy

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01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:51,460
it and I do urge you all to check out

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01:16:59,880 --> 01:16:55,380
Michael's YouTube channel schism 206 s

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01:17:01,800 --> 01:16:59,890
CH is M 206 he's got so much material

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01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:01,810
it's very fascinating and the guy has

1971
01:17:07,410 --> 01:17:04,570
less than 500 subscribers and we can fix

1972
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:07,420
that I'm also super impressed with just

1973
01:17:11,459 --> 01:17:09,670
how much he's absorbed and digested in

1974
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:11,469
such a short period of time I'm

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01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:13,420
surprised that this hasn't been like a

1976
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:15,790
lifelong study because the Boston

1977
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:18,370
bombing wasn't all that long ago or did

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01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:20,170
he say Sandy Hook I think it was Boston

1979
01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:22,480
but both are pretty fairly recent

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rabbit-hole starting points what I like

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01:17:30,030 --> 01:17:27,130
most about this episode is that ever

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01:17:32,189 --> 01:17:30,040
since Crow and Eric Dubay those early

1983
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:32,199
shows where we really stretch these

1984
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:34,570
ideas of how different our construct

1985
01:17:40,380 --> 01:17:37,590
could really be and then NASA's role in

1986
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:40,390
perpetuating the deception there has

1987
01:17:45,689 --> 01:17:42,910
been a lot of talk around that nexus of

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01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:45,699
science and occult beliefs symbolism and

1989
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:47,800
names and NASA missions invoking

1990
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:50,890
mythology etc all that stuff but we were

1991
01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:52,750
kind of fumbling around in the dark

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01:17:55,620 --> 01:17:54,820
obviously there is something there to

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talk about

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01:18:00,750 --> 01:17:57,610
we see some things that give us pause

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01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:00,760
but it was pretty clunky if that makes

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01:18:05,459 --> 01:18:03,550
sense I just think this conversation

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with Michael smooths out at least some

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01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:07,540
of the wrinkles in there and it's a more

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:10,090
measured and nuanced look at what this

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:12,489
is rather than a dramatic paranoid

2001
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:15,010
reactionary they're all saying this type

2002
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:17,710
of talk between the moon landing stuff

2003
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,170
the Neil deGrasse Tyson stuff and the

2004
01:18:25,979 --> 01:18:23,440
Earth's iron core stuff a lot clicked

2005
01:18:28,050 --> 01:18:25,989
from me here it's like I knew they were

2006
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:28,060
making some things up I knew it had to

2007
01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:30,370
do with their beliefs but I guess I just

2008
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,160
feel that I can articulate what they may

2009
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:35,920
be trying to do a bit better now I think

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01:18:40,459 --> 01:18:38,290
it goes a long way towards rectifying

2011
01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:40,469
this idea of secret societies and

2012
01:18:46,910 --> 01:18:44,140
Freemasons invoking Lucifer this light

2013
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:46,920
bringer character talking about in

2014
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:49,440
lighten mint and the evolution of

2015
01:18:55,310 --> 01:18:51,570
mankind and then rectifying that with

2016
01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:55,320
their negative actions maybe I could see

2017
01:19:00,080 --> 01:18:57,510
this conversation being so objective

2018
01:19:02,270 --> 01:19:00,090
that it's damn near cold-hearted but it

2019
01:19:03,890 --> 01:19:02,280
is what it is it's one of my favorites

2020
01:19:06,290 --> 01:19:03,900
lately and Michael is a guy that I think

2021
01:19:08,690 --> 01:19:06,300
I could have on quite a few more times

2022
01:19:13,250 --> 01:19:08,700
but let me know what you think I also

2023
01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:13,260
did find a hilarious critique of myself

2024
01:19:18,170 --> 01:19:15,150
and the higher side chats and our

2025
01:19:19,610 --> 01:19:18,180
trustworthiness I posted it on Facebook

2026
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:19,620
and Twitter you can find it there I

2027
01:19:26,270 --> 01:19:23,850
actually liked it quite a bit for a

2028
01:19:28,730 --> 01:19:26,280
couple of reasons but a common thing

2029
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:28,740
that gets brought up is why do I use

2030
01:19:35,180 --> 01:19:32,100
free Masonic symbolism I'm probably a

2031
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:35,190
secret freemason and the show is

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01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:38,400
suspiciously good for one lone stoner in

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:41,400
San Diego and I think that is quite a

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01:19:47,150 --> 01:19:44,370
badge of honor in a lot of ways but I'm

2035
01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:47,160
definitely not a freemason I really am

2036
01:19:53,780 --> 01:19:51,510
just a independent interested party but

2037
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:53,790
if I need to explain why that symbolism

2038
01:19:58,340 --> 01:19:55,770
makes it into the higher side chats

2039
01:20:00,380 --> 01:19:58,350
marketing images it's because I want

2040
01:20:01,940 --> 01:20:00,390
someone to know exactly what kind of

2041
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:01,950
show it is when they haven't heard of it

2042
01:20:06,110 --> 01:20:04,560
before if they only see the logo we can

2043
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:06,120
go back to the old logo of the

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01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:08,970
microphone and the eye with the squid

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01:20:15,470 --> 01:20:12,600
tentacles we got ya a free Masonic

2046
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:15,480
square and compass in there a UFO a

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01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:19,970
police baton money and a swinging

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01:20:26,530 --> 01:20:23,040
hypnotist pocket watch these are just

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01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:26,540
conspiratorial symbols in general and

2050
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:29,610
I'm in no way more associated with

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01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,880
Freemasons than I am UFOs they're both

2052
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:35,520
in the image I then thought a little bit

2053
01:20:40,610 --> 01:20:37,620
deeper and was like well you know if

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01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:40,620
someone was really skeptical about me

2055
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:43,260
and like followed me around and looked

2056
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:45,930
at my car it probably wouldn't look good

2057
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:48,090
that I do have a free Masonic Square

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01:20:57,230 --> 01:20:53,040
encompass on my vehicle the reason for

2059
01:20:59,690 --> 01:20:57,240
that is I bought it off Amazon for $2 as

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01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:59,700
an experiment to see if it would help me

2061
01:21:03,170 --> 01:21:00,480
with

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01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:03,180
police interactions I have to say I have

2063
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:05,340
not been pulled over since I put that on

2064
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:08,010
my car my fiance has not been pulled

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01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:10,770
over since we put one on her car and I

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01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,960
thought that if by chance one of us did

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01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:15,600
get pulled over and it was referenced by

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01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:18,210
the police officer all we would have to

2069
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:21,150
say is oh you know my dad put that on

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01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:23,850
the window didn't really say much about

2071
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:26,550
it but that's his deal and it might work

2072
01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:28,770
it might actually get me out of some

2073
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:31,260
kind of ticket without having to know

2074
01:21:35,150 --> 01:21:32,730
the secret handshake or anything like

2075
01:21:37,460 --> 01:21:35,160
that so there isn't much of a point to

2076
01:21:39,140 --> 01:21:37,470
that tangent just that it is a common

2077
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:39,150
criticism that I seem to use free

2078
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:41,340
Masonic imagery but I consider it

2079
01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:44,400
conspiratorial imagery but if I was

2080
01:21:48,740 --> 01:21:46,500
connected and was going through this as

2081
01:21:51,620 --> 01:21:48,750
some sort of SIOP the evidence would not

2082
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:51,630
be that obvious I mean what kind of

2083
01:21:55,460 --> 01:21:53,250
sense would that make sometimes

2084
01:21:57,710 --> 01:21:55,470
conspiracy folks think that everything

2085
01:21:59,840 --> 01:21:57,720
has to be tagged so that there is a

2086
01:22:02,240 --> 01:21:59,850
truth revealed there and that's just not

2087
01:22:04,910 --> 01:22:02,250
the case but maybe I'm digging myself a

2088
01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:04,920
bigger hole anyway if you liked the

2089
01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:07,470
first hour of this episode as always

2090
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:09,750
there's a second hour for the THC plus

2091
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,270
members and I try to bring you a healthy

2092
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:15,120
dose of Education and speculation with

2093
01:22:18,830 --> 01:22:16,710
the best guest on some of the most

2094
01:22:20,990 --> 01:22:18,840
interesting fringe topics out there and

2095
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:21,000
all I ask is that if you like that first

2096
01:22:26,330 --> 01:22:23,760
hour you sign up as a member for the

2097
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:26,340
full show for five bucks a month five

2098
01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:28,850
episodes a month ten hours of content

2099
01:22:34,370 --> 01:22:31,980
keeping it simple and in this episode in

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01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,380
that second hour we talked about the

2101
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:36,480
Hollow Earth and concave earth in

2102
01:22:41,090 --> 01:22:39,360
esoteric literature the trapped on a

2103
01:22:43,850 --> 01:22:41,100
prison planet and the aftermath of a

2104
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:43,860
cosmic war idea that the elite might be

2105
01:22:48,850 --> 01:22:46,410
trying to facilitate a jailbreak through

2106
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:48,860
various magical and scientific means

2107
01:22:53,690 --> 01:22:51,210
remember the Joseph Farrell episode on

2108
01:22:55,340 --> 01:22:53,700
this the Treaty of Versailles template I

2109
01:22:58,220 --> 01:22:55,350
thought that was a real great one

2110
01:23:00,680 --> 01:22:58,230
definitely worth revisiting or checking

2111
01:23:03,620 --> 01:23:00,690
out if you missed it we also talked

2112
01:23:06,620 --> 01:23:03,630
about the esoteric subtext and astrology

2113
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:06,630
of the moon landing ritual gravity in

2114
01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:10,050
the context of this secret religion some

2115
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:12,270
accounts of ancient schisms among the

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01:23:14,270 --> 01:23:14,010
elite that might still be affecting us

2117
01:23:16,939 --> 01:23:14,280
too

2118
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:16,949
a and the campaign of the knowledge

2119
01:23:21,979 --> 01:23:19,770
ceders one part I really loved was the

2120
01:23:24,979 --> 01:23:21,989
ISA Tareq symbolism around the death of

2121
01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:24,989
David Bowie the Jack Stephens element

2122
01:23:29,390 --> 01:23:27,270
and how that could be an example of a

2123
01:23:31,549 --> 01:23:29,400
larger pattern one of the better

2124
01:23:33,770 --> 01:23:31,559
breakdowns of that I've heard good job

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Michael and then a little something that

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has been kind of the bread and butter of

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today's guests which is the astrology of

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the JFK assassination and the numerous

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rituals that seemed to have been rolled

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into that one event and we throw in some

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01:23:49,729 --> 01:23:47,579
talk about the elites connection to

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01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:49,739
non-human entities for good measure I

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hope this is the kind of episode that

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makes some listeners finally pull the

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trigger on supporting Plus also Michael

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Joseph gave me one of his own songs to

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play out this episode of THD it's a

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01:24:05,569 --> 01:24:03,480
sample from an album he's going to be

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01:24:09,049 --> 01:24:05,579
releasing in the future the song is

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called Johnny North do enjoy it and I

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01:24:13,010 --> 01:24:10,530
declare this meeting of the midnight

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society officially closed and I'll see

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you next time

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your move adept occultist of the power

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01:24:20,750 --> 01:24:17,849
pyramid and high priest of the private

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01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:20,760
religion behind the curtain your saw

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01:24:35,690 --> 01:24:21,770
skin

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in addition again

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anyone

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[Music]

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I'm

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and given the time from

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[Music]

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01:25:02,110 --> 01:24:59,400
and then we're showing great

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your father's got is having a child

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[Music]

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Wow

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[Music]

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if you

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[Music]

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Oh God

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[Music]

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sold

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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anyone

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is growing on

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[Music]

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we shall explain

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go create your father started babbling

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and

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a Christian

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wakes up day

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[Music]

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into

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oh my

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01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:39,500
[Music]

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and shot going solo

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[Music]

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01:27:01,899 --> 01:26:59,590
[Applause]

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01:27:03,459 --> 01:27:01,909
hey guys thanks for listening to the

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01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:03,469
first hour of the higher side chats

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01:27:07,870 --> 01:27:05,810
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

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01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:07,880
don't know there is a second hour to all

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01:27:11,950 --> 01:27:10,250
the episodes we do around here generally

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01:27:13,689 --> 01:27:11,960
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:13,699
topics and ideas that a guest is about

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01:27:18,819 --> 01:27:16,010
so if you enjoyed what you heard from

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THC for free consider signing up at the

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higher side chats plus com to get the

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second hour of the five shows I put

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together each month I never really

2193
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wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

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01:27:30,910 --> 01:27:28,940
but I really hate the idea of spending

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airtime promoting some product that's

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completely unrelated and telling you the

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best way to support the show is to buy

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an audiobook or new underwear by mail or

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01:27:41,859 --> 01:27:39,590
something crazy like that so instead if

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01:27:43,540 --> 01:27:41,869
you like the show double your time with

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it for five bucks a month and let's cut

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out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

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01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,030
price of a movie ticket and you get at

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01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:48,800
least an extra five hours of show a

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01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:51,409
month collectively it keeps us stable

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and it frees me from wasting your time

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01:27:57,370 --> 01:27:54,829
with anything but the show you came to

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01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:57,380
listen to it's really the only way for

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01:28:01,149 --> 01:27:59,360
an independent one-man show to make it

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01:28:03,370 --> 01:28:01,159
and I do what I can so that it's worth

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01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,380
your while since we started this I've

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01:28:07,390 --> 01:28:05,360
always tried to use the subscriptions to

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01:28:09,939 --> 01:28:07,400
improve the podcast and make signups

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01:28:11,859 --> 01:28:09,949
more advantageous it started with just a

2215
01:28:13,540 --> 01:28:11,869
second hour for the main show but now

2216
01:28:15,580 --> 01:28:13,550
we've got a nice forum going where

2217
01:28:17,290 --> 01:28:15,590
people can get deeper in conversation

2218
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:17,300
about the episodes with other listeners

2219
01:28:22,109 --> 01:28:20,210
submit a candidate in the guest request

2220
01:28:24,129 --> 01:28:22,119
thread or share their own personal

2221
01:28:26,620 --> 01:28:24,139
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

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01:28:28,930 --> 01:28:26,630
nine-to-five coggan unreal life on the

2223
01:28:30,459 --> 01:28:28,940
entrepreneurs thread the four men the

2224
01:28:32,169 --> 01:28:30,469
plus comments are always the first

2225
01:28:34,419 --> 01:28:32,179
places I try to go for listener

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01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:34,429
engagement but it does get harder as the

2227
01:28:38,649 --> 01:28:36,800
show gets more popular because of that

2228
01:28:40,089 --> 01:28:38,659
there's also a direct messaging feature

2229
01:28:42,939 --> 01:28:40,099
that you can use to reach me through the

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01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:42,949
plus site also well beyond the forum if

2231
01:28:46,750 --> 01:28:44,570
you like any of the music I've used for

2232
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:46,760
THC most of it I've hired artists to

2233
01:28:50,830 --> 01:28:48,530
make and I provided all its free

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01:28:52,209 --> 01:28:50,840
downloads to plus members too so if you

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01:28:54,430 --> 01:28:52,219
like a particular song you've heard

2236
01:28:56,740 --> 01:28:54,440
close the show out recently come get the

2237
01:28:58,780 --> 01:28:56,750
mp3 I should also mention that if you

2238
01:29:00,939 --> 01:28:58,790
don't like the idea of paying $5

2239
01:29:03,220 --> 01:29:00,949
recurring every month I guess that you

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:03,230
can buy three months six months or a

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01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:05,210
year upfront and just be done with it I

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01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,130
have plenty of listeners who send checks

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01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:09,199
and money orders to the PIO box too I

2244
01:29:12,250 --> 01:29:11,510
try to make it as easy for people as I

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01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:12,260
can and you

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01:29:16,450 --> 01:29:13,730
read more about it on the signup page

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01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:16,460
also be sure to check out the FAQ help

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01:29:19,810 --> 01:29:18,170
page on the plus side if you have any

2249
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:19,820
questions or concerns about how to

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listen to a password-protected show on

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01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:24,080
your devices I've highlighted a lot of

2252
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:25,970
great solutions and one of those would

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01:29:31,150 --> 01:29:28,430
be the iPhone app that just recently hit

2254
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:31,160
the Apple App Store a super kind and

2255
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:33,290
talented listener made it for us and you

2256
01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:35,120
can use it to stream or download either

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01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:37,280
the free or the plus show if you're on

2258
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:40,250
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

2259
01:29:44,410 --> 01:29:41,840
addict and subscribe to the feed

2260
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:44,420
manually that way I also try to throw an

2261
01:29:49,090 --> 01:29:47,120
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

2262
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:49,100
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

2263
01:29:53,230 --> 01:29:51,290
get to try out soon but I give you all I

2264
01:29:54,910 --> 01:29:53,240
can for 5 bucks and I hope you'll at

2265
01:29:56,620 --> 01:29:54,920
least give it a shot if you've listened

2266
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:56,630
to a few free shows and you find them

2267
01:30:00,160 --> 01:29:58,400
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

2268
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:00,170
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

2269
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:02,330
of them but if you have any questions

2270
01:30:05,650 --> 01:30:04,130
concerns or comments about any of this

2271
01:30:08,530 --> 01:30:05,660
please get in touch with us at the

2272
01:30:10,450 --> 01:30:08,540
higher side chats team at gmail.com I

2273
01:30:11,860 --> 01:30:10,460
also wanted to plug the higher side

2274
01:30:13,690 --> 01:30:11,870
newsletter I'm going to be putting out

2275
01:30:16,180 --> 01:30:13,700
totally free for anyone who wants to

2276
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:16,190
sign up at the main internet website for

2277
01:30:20,590 --> 01:30:18,770
the show the higher side chats comm you

2278
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:20,600
can also get on that email list through

2279
01:30:24,460 --> 01:30:22,250
the higher side chats Facebook page

2280
01:30:25,870 --> 01:30:24,470
there's a button there as well but the

2281
01:30:28,300 --> 01:30:25,880
reason I'm doing this is because I get

2282
01:30:30,190 --> 01:30:28,310
tons and tons of emails after a show

2283
01:30:32,290 --> 01:30:30,200
goes up asking me about how I feel about

2284
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:32,300
a particular guest or topic and the

2285
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:33,890
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

2286
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:35,810
do that especially if I have anything

2287
01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:37,850
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

2288
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:39,710
to settle sometimes they need to hear

2289
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:42,170
feedback from you guys first there are a

2290
01:30:45,370 --> 01:30:43,760
lot of factors but I usually have

2291
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:45,380
something to communicate to you and I

2292
01:30:49,450 --> 01:30:47,810
just don't get to do it so on the first

2293
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:49,460
of the month I plan to send out a little

2294
01:30:53,380 --> 01:30:51,050
newsletter with my thoughts about the

2295
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:53,390
five shows the previous month and talk

2296
01:30:57,430 --> 01:30:55,280
to you about anything else that's on my

2297
01:30:59,260 --> 01:30:57,440
mind or that's going on and what's

2298
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:59,270
probably most enticing is that I'm going

2299
01:31:02,890 --> 01:31:00,800
to give you some insight into at least

2300
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:02,900
one guess I have coming up in the month

2301
01:31:06,970 --> 01:31:04,970
which people have been begging for some

2302
01:31:08,980 --> 01:31:06,980
posted schedule for a long time I

2303
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:08,990
personally think I'd like to surprise

2304
01:31:12,580 --> 01:31:10,610
but sign up for the higher side

2305
01:31:14,110 --> 01:31:12,590
newsletter it's free it comes out on the

2306
01:31:16,990 --> 01:31:14,120
1st of the month and I won't waste your

2307
01:31:18,940 --> 01:31:17,000
time with any other email and that's it

2308
01:31:21,220 --> 01:31:18,950
I appreciate you listening I try to give

2309
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,230
alternative ideas and guess a fair shake

2310
01:31:25,630 --> 01:31:23,840
on a high quality podcast expose some

2311
01:31:27,490 --> 01:31:25,640
deep level conspiracies without the

2312
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:27,500
yelling and I hope to offer some

2313
01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:29,090
inspiration that even though the system

2314
01:31:33,820 --> 01:31:31,190
relentlessly suggests you should follow

2315
01:31:35,710 --> 01:31:33,830
their blueprint to mediocrity you can do

2316
01:31:37,660 --> 01:31:35,720
your own thing and live a much happier

2317
01:31:39,790 --> 01:31:37,670
life despite all the negativity in the